Porsche Modify 919 to Smash Track Records

Porsche Modify 919 to Smash Track Records

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thatguy11

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647 posts

134 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Porsche have heavily modified their 919 Hybrid endurance racer. As a sort of farewell tour since it's not racing in WEC any more and therefore unbound by regulations, they are setting about breaking track records.

They've already been to Spa; Lewis Hamilton's pole time for the 2017 Belgian Grand Prix was 1:42.553, the Porsche 919 'Evo' has done an unofficial lap time of 1:41.770. An LMP1 nearly a second faster than an F1 car. Now that is truly mental.

Kraken

1,710 posts

211 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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How fast would the Merc go without the rule restrictions though? It would be interesting to see them try without the fuel flow and harvesting/deployment limits.

WonkeyDonkey

2,434 posts

114 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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They're aiming for a 1:36 lap as well which is bonkers. I'd love to see an on-board video of the lap.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

121 months

Truckosaurus

12,346 posts

295 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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It's an interesting project. It's easy to say "what would happen if [insert other car] run unrestricted?" but at least Porsche are putting their money where their exhaust pipe is and running the car.

Have they published a plan of which circuits they are going for? It would be good to see them trying the Nordschliefe or Le Mans (maybe move the chicane barriers out the way to see what vMax comes up).

In related news, I notice that Toyota have been running several 'unrestricted' lap at this weekend's WEC test, supposedly to test the cooling system's limits.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

121 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
It would be good to see them trying the Nordschliefe .....
Think they're planning do this prior to the 'ring 24h...

JonChalk

6,469 posts

121 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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From racefans.net:

Porsche will next run its 919 Hybrid Evo to the Nordschleife for a demonstration lap prior to the 24 Hours of the Nurburgring. It will also visit the Goodwood Festival of Speed, the Festival of Porsche at Brands Hatch and the Porsche Rennsport Reunion at Laguna Seca.

Kraken

1,710 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
It's an interesting project. It's easy to say "what would happen if [insert other car] run unrestricted?" but at least Porsche are putting their money where their exhaust pipe is and running the car.
I'd prefer they spent their money on actually racing in the series the original car was designed for though.

Maybe it's just the headline writers but I don't see the point in saying "look how our unregulated car has beaten the lap record of a car that runs to a stringent set of regulations". It's a bit like Usain Bolt boasting that he runs faster than anyone in the Paralympics. It's not comparing apples with apples.

Edited by Kraken on Tuesday 10th April 07:01

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

163 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Kraken said:
How fast would the Merc go without the rule restrictions though? It would be interesting to see them try without the fuel flow and harvesting/deployment limits.
The car isn't completely 'unregulated' though - so not a free thinking exercise.

To achieve a sort of equivalence Mercedes would need to reduce the balance, and take off the fuel flow limiter (and presumably turn the engine up to 11 as it doesn't have to last)

It'd probably be a bit quicker than the Porsche, but probably wouldn't totally blow it away like a wholly unregulated thought exercise type car.

Anyway - you can say you'd rather they spent their money racing it - this will cost many orders of magnitude less.

It's fun.

Since when did racing fans get so po faced about doing something because they can?

Truckosaurus

12,346 posts

295 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Kraken said:
... It's a bit like Usain Bolt boasting that he runs faster than anyone in the Paralympics. It's not comparing apples with apples...
I'd say it was more like Bolty scoffing a load of performance enhancing drugs and doing the 100 yard dash in 8 seconds. I'd tune in to see that.

RDMcG

19,701 posts

218 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Brilliant marketing exercise and probably their last chance at setting records everywhere before EVs capture all records of this type in a few years. Cost effective and great publicity.

Plinth

715 posts

99 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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thatguy11 said:
Lewis Hamilton's pole time for the 2017 Belgian Grand Prix was 1:42.553, the Porsche 919 'Evo' has done an unofficial lap time of 1:41.770. An LMP1 nearly a second faster than an F1 car. Now that is truly mental.
IIRC, a similar situation to the early 1970's when the 917 was quicker round the old (longer) Spa circuit than the F1 cars.

Gary29

4,419 posts

110 months

Tuesday 10th April 2018
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Truckosaurus said:
I'd say it was more like Bolty scoffing a load of performance enhancing drugs and doing the 100 yard dash in 8 seconds. I'd tune in to see that.
They already do that. It's called 'The Olympic Games'

ajprice

30,088 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th April 2018
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/faster-than-a...

They're going to Goodwood FOS, hopefully that means a timed run up the hill smile .

Kraken

1,710 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th April 2018
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Vocal Minority said:
Since when did racing fans get so po faced about doing something because they can?
If they did it alongside a WEC program with the car I wouldn't have an issue with it. Just seems a slap in the face to pull out of the series and then gain publicity by running the car in events like this. Racing fans want to see cars racing not setting meaningless lap records. At least this one does anyway.

ajprice

30,088 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

163 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Kraken said:
Vocal Minority said:
Since when did racing fans get so po faced about doing something because they can?
If they did it alongside a WEC program with the car I wouldn't have an issue with it. Just seems a slap in the face to pull out of the series and then gain publicity by running the car in events like this. Racing fans want to see cars racing not setting meaningless lap records. At least this one does anyway.
I can understand why. The fact is they won't stump out for doing a full WEC season for reasons that have been gone over many times.

This will cost majorly less and will have proportionally less chache - its not like they are getting anything for fee.

ArnageWRC

2,228 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Well they've created a talking/ discussion point, which is what they wanted. In fact, I've seen more comments and press/ media attention devoted to this than the most recent round of the WRC.......