Where is this going on in the UK?

Where is this going on in the UK?

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Flugplatz

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257 months

nicanary

10,456 posts

158 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.

anonymous-user

66 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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nicanary said:
It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.
Which, of course, is in the UK.

DelicaL400

524 posts

123 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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If you mean hillclimbs there are events all over the UK.

If you mean closed road events then there are rallies in Ireland, Scotland and the Isle of Man.

Flugplatz

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1,953 posts

257 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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I mean where lots of Supercar owners turn up and hill climb their road cars smile
It looks like the ideal use of a weekend.
There's even a La Ferrari on this one.


MG CHRIS

9,248 posts

179 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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Well you got goodwood festival of speed they do a supercar run up the hill. But nothing like the event over in Europe.

Dave Brand

936 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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An act allowing local authorities to close roads for motor sport purposes was passed last year, wasn't it?

marshalla

15,902 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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nicanary said:
It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.
And in Scarborough.

Dave Brand said:
An act allowing local authorities to close roads for motor sport purposes was passed last year, wasn't it?
Almost : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118239

nicanary

10,456 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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For some reason I always thought that Scarborough was not public roads, but I've just read their website and I was totally wrong. How did they manage that for so many years?

coppice

9,102 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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OP- if you go to any speed hillclimb you will quickly realise that supercars are actually very tame to watch in action compared to proper competition cars, even stuff like a quick 205GTI (let alone a quick Seven type car) will leave most exotica for dead and when you have seen a 600bhp Gould single seater in action you will find that any roadgoing car is slow, quiet and boring to watch in comparison .

Andy 308GTB

2,972 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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coppice said:
OP- if you go to any speed hillclimb you will quickly realise that supercars are actually very tame to watch in action compared to proper competition cars, even stuff like a quick 205GTI (let alone a quick Seven type car) will leave most exotica for dead and when you have seen a 600bhp Gould single seater in action you will find that any roadgoing car is slow, quiet and boring to watch in comparison .
Very true.
'Supercar' parades/demos at race meetings really bring this home.

gshughes

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267 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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nicanary said:
It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.
Not true, the Jim Clark rally in the borders of Scotland is run on public roads.

marshalla

15,902 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th December 2015
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gshughes said:
nicanary said:
It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.
Not true, the Jim Clark rally in the borders of Scotland is run on public roads.
A rally is not a race.

coppice

9,102 posts

156 months

Friday 18th December 2015
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Having just watched the first 5 minutes of the youtube clip all I can say to OP is that if you get excited by this lot (short shifting and pedestrian driving of so called supercars) then please stand well back when you encounter something like Mike Manning's 650bhp Puma at a hillclimb. I am not sure your nerves will be up to it.

To repeat - no matter how moist some may get at road going cars few, if any, are remotely impressive in any way (speed, noise, spectacle ) compared to a competition car in its natural habitat.Have a day at Prescott , Harewood or Shelsey and see for yourself . But get medical advice before you venture to Santa Pod as there is a real risk of self combustion . Think a LaFerrari can accelerate quickly ?

onomatopoeia

3,509 posts

229 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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marshalla said:
gshughes said:
nicanary said:
It would be a bit difficult to organise, since public road racing is only allowed in Northern Ireland.
Not true, the Jim Clark rally in the borders of Scotland is run on public roads.
A rally is not a race.
Both stage rallying and racing were banned on public roads on the mainland until quite recently (they still are in fact, the law has changed but AFAIK the commencement order has not been made yet).

The Jim Clark and Tour of Mull need (needed?) an act of parliament each year to suspend the relevant provisions of the Road traffic act to allow them to take place. As did the Birmingham superprix, which was a race.

e21Mark

16,381 posts

185 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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If only we had some proper sprint events and hillclimbs on real roads here in the UK. frown


onomatopoeia

3,509 posts

229 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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Perhaps we can, using closed roads, if a club wants to take the financial risk and competitors want to pay the entrance fee.

Given the amount of bales we used to need to put on one corner of an airfield where the course got close to a fence, I dread to think of how many will be required to get a track licence to use a public road for a speed event. I quite look forward to hearing John Symes' general thinking on it though.

coppice

9,102 posts

156 months

Monday 21st December 2015
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e21Mark said:
If only we had some proper sprint events and hillclimbs on real roads here in the UK. frown
It is indeed a shame that we cannot - or do not - put on speed events on longer courses . Some of the European stuff looks amazing and to my eyes , with proper coverage, is a far better TV spectacle than many domestic race series. BTCC at Rockingham hardly gets my pulse racing . The diversity of competing cars in speed events -here and in Europe - is terrific.

But I wouldn't deprecate what we have in the UK either; our hills may be short but no enthusiast should be unmoved by seeing a 600bhp single seater spearing uphill , often at very close range. I find it depressing that so many self styled petorlheads apparently prefer to park in a field full of identical cars to their own and spend the day taking endless photos of serried rows of similar cars. Still, each to their own I guess...

onomatopoeia

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229 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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coppice said:
It is indeed a shame that we cannot - or do not - put on speed events on longer courses .
Find an affordable venue that's not massively bogged down with red tape and there will be clubs biting your hand off to put an event on.

coppice

9,102 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd December 2015
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The trouble is that any longer venue would not be purpose built - and closed roads are dangerous enough with rally cars , let alone singe seaters. Swiss seem to manage it though don't they ..and this in a country where racing per se has been illegal since Le Mans tragedy in 55 was it ?