Racing S Series
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How long before S's become eligible for the Tasmin racing then ? It could be a series of cars between a certain age ??
I understand it is 'Tasmin' racing but with early S's (s1's and some s2's) going very reasonably now, what distance is there in the idea of opening up the series to a few more cars.
I am unaware of how different the chassis are between cars and either way a handicapping system could be involved. Certainly handicapping would be needed for the 2.9 cars etc..
Any ideas or thoughts ??
Cheers
Mark
I understand it is 'Tasmin' racing but with early S's (s1's and some s2's) going very reasonably now, what distance is there in the idea of opening up the series to a few more cars.
I am unaware of how different the chassis are between cars and either way a handicapping system could be involved. Certainly handicapping would be needed for the 2.9 cars etc..
Any ideas or thoughts ??
Cheers
Mark
I suggested this before the Tasmin Challenge started, you could open it to all V6 cars and include 'M's as well. The main reasoning for going the Tasmin route was cost, at the time you could buy donor cars very cheaply (and still can), but M prices have now fallen and S's are on their way down.
An S weighs significantly less than a Tasmin or and M so some form of handicapping would be required, but while they have relatively full grids for the Tasmins, I personally think it should be left alone.
davidy
An S weighs significantly less than a Tasmin or and M so some form of handicapping would be required, but while they have relatively full grids for the Tasmins, I personally think it should be left alone.
davidy
How big is a relatively full grid ?
There are S's around now available for silly money including one on PH at the moment for 2k !
What seems to have hurt the Tasmin series from what I have heard is the cost of conversion to a track car from standard is a lot higher than first estimated/quoted.
I agree that if the series has a full grid then leave it alone. It should definitely be considered though as these formula's normally have a fairly finite life span and it would be a good way of supporting it in the future.
I know a couple of people who would be very interested
>> Edited by johno on Friday 2nd August 17:18
There are S's around now available for silly money including one on PH at the moment for 2k !
What seems to have hurt the Tasmin series from what I have heard is the cost of conversion to a track car from standard is a lot higher than first estimated/quoted.
I agree that if the series has a full grid then leave it alone. It should definitely be considered though as these formula's normally have a fairly finite life span and it would be a good way of supporting it in the future.
I know a couple of people who would be very interested
>> Edited by johno on Friday 2nd August 17:18
biggest so far is 20 cars hovers in the 17-20 at the moment with a couple of cars still in build.
The cars didcost mdobre to prep than first though but i think there are two reasons for that
1) most people had proffessional help with the build and labour was never factored in to the cost.
2) The fact that if you re going to go racing you dont want old knackered parts so you end up replacing almost everything.. (and the fact that the cage costs almost grand co of the spec)
i dont think you could prep anything else any cheaper. and atleast one car was built to about the 6k mark, although not mine ;-)
We did discuss s cars ect but it would make managing th e series much harder, regs ect and everyone would want to move to the quicker type. either that or you would end up with multiple classes.
At the moment its nice that everything is equal and we all have a chance at a flag win.
If we did have a numbers problem then maybe but not at the mo..
So if your sitting on the fence bite the bullet and build a taz.
that way if youdont like wedges at least you dont run the risk of bending a tvr you like.
Cheers
Graham (wedgelover)
The cars didcost mdobre to prep than first though but i think there are two reasons for that
1) most people had proffessional help with the build and labour was never factored in to the cost.
2) The fact that if you re going to go racing you dont want old knackered parts so you end up replacing almost everything.. (and the fact that the cage costs almost grand co of the spec)
i dont think you could prep anything else any cheaper. and atleast one car was built to about the 6k mark, although not mine ;-)
We did discuss s cars ect but it would make managing th e series much harder, regs ect and everyone would want to move to the quicker type. either that or you would end up with multiple classes.
At the moment its nice that everything is equal and we all have a chance at a flag win.
If we did have a numbers problem then maybe but not at the mo..
So if your sitting on the fence bite the bullet and build a taz.
that way if youdont like wedges at least you dont run the risk of bending a tvr you like.
Cheers
Graham (wedgelover)
Okay then, we'll build our own sandpit and you nasty boy's can't play in it! 
Anyone feel like organising a proper 'any TVR goes' race series? You could put in a handicap or class structure so that everyting from an ex-race Tuscan down to a Grantura could race.
One championship I race in has me in my little Fiesta racing against Mini's, Sierra Cosworths, BMW M3Evo's, Peugot 205's, ex-Fiesta Credit challenge cars and even Westfields and Caterhams, one of which has a bike engine in it, which shows that if you are careful and are aware of faster cars on the circuit, it need not be dangerous! It is enormous fun for us drivers, and spectators alike. Racing is kept sensible, bad drivers or agressive drivers are quickly banned, (someone was told to 'f
k off and not come back' actually in one case!) and we are all happy bunnies!
Jas.
>> Edited by Paceracing on Friday 2nd August 18:40
Anyone feel like organising a proper 'any TVR goes' race series? You could put in a handicap or class structure so that everyting from an ex-race Tuscan down to a Grantura could race.
One championship I race in has me in my little Fiesta racing against Mini's, Sierra Cosworths, BMW M3Evo's, Peugot 205's, ex-Fiesta Credit challenge cars and even Westfields and Caterhams, one of which has a bike engine in it, which shows that if you are careful and are aware of faster cars on the circuit, it need not be dangerous! It is enormous fun for us drivers, and spectators alike. Racing is kept sensible, bad drivers or agressive drivers are quickly banned, (someone was told to 'f
k off and not come back' actually in one case!) and we are all happy bunnies! Jas.
>> Edited by Paceracing on Friday 2nd August 18:40
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Okay then, we'll build our own sandpit and you nasty boy's can't play in it!
I think the circuit owners build plenty of them around the edge of the track and i dont want to play in one
Go on then organise the any TVR series and i'll bring the wedge along to that as well as the taz challenge... dont fancy being lapped by the speed 12 though...
actually having a race tuscan go either side of you in practice at coram at snetterton is urm interesting.
G
I would love to set up a TVR race championship! However, the constraints of my job, (away from home a lot) prevent me from doing it sucessfully.
I would probably organise things whereby you could initially fill the grids with Lotus, TVR, Marcos, Morgan, & Ginetta and then maybe when there are enough competitors, have different races for different types of car, i.e. (1) Standard roadgoing cars (complying to MSA regulations, rollcage fire extinguishers, etc..) (2) Modified Roadgoing cars (Engine, suspension mods) (3) Silhouttes (As long as it looks like a TVR, Lotus, Marcos, etc.. you can do what you like).
I think that this variety will attract the spectators and maybe the sponsors as well. It would have the added bonus of appealling to those people with both large and small budgets to come racing.
It's only an idea, and would need to be thought through with the input of a large number of people, but it could work, and it could be one of the most attractive championships in the UK today.
Jas.
P.S. On the other hand, small is sweet and a dedicated TVR championship would be fun. I just want to race an 'S' series against an Elise, 'cos I think I could beat it with the right set up!
I would probably organise things whereby you could initially fill the grids with Lotus, TVR, Marcos, Morgan, & Ginetta and then maybe when there are enough competitors, have different races for different types of car, i.e. (1) Standard roadgoing cars (complying to MSA regulations, rollcage fire extinguishers, etc..) (2) Modified Roadgoing cars (Engine, suspension mods) (3) Silhouttes (As long as it looks like a TVR, Lotus, Marcos, etc.. you can do what you like).
I think that this variety will attract the spectators and maybe the sponsors as well. It would have the added bonus of appealling to those people with both large and small budgets to come racing.
It's only an idea, and would need to be thought through with the input of a large number of people, but it could work, and it could be one of the most attractive championships in the UK today.
Jas.
P.S. On the other hand, small is sweet and a dedicated TVR championship would be fun. I just want to race an 'S' series against an Elise, 'cos I think I could beat it with the right set up!
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