Nurburgring 24hr 2024

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Truckosaurus said:

I suspect you mean Karun Chandhok.

What is good/bad about the Radio Le Mans style of commentary is what it isn't just describing what is on the screen (which is what you need for a sprint race) but general chat and updates.

For Le Mans they have someone like Paul Truswell who is watching the lap charts like a hawk and can point out any meaningful changes on track.

HAHA yeah Karun, sorry that was probably disrespectful. Don’t know where Narain came from.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the anecdotes, but talking about a Jaguar you once rode in whilst the race lead has just changed is somewhat embarrassing

[FredericRobinson]

bigmowley said:

I like the Radio LeMans type commentary. It’s a bit like test match special in the old days. Perhaps we all need to send them a cake

It’s a 24 hour race, so the conversation will wander, but I think it’s reasonable to expect that within 15 minutes or 20 minutes of turning on you’ll understand what’s going on in the race. I get that when Johnny Palmer is on comms, but often don’t when John Hindhaugh is on.
Which is not to deny the massive contribution he’s made in bring coverage of events that no one else was doing.

[airbusA346]

Rowe Racing are throwing their toys out of the pram...

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/06/02/n24-resu...

[Sandpit Steve]

airbusA346 said:

Rowe Racing are throwing their toys out of the pram...

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/06/02/n24-resu...

Well if you’re going to make the rules up as you go along, Mr Race Director, don’t be too surprised if you upset someone and have to deal with protests and appeals.

[Jordie Barretts sock]

RLM were brilliant 20 years ago.

Now, not so much. They ramble too much these days, a bit too self indulgent. Hindhaugh being the worst. They miss too much track action because of it.

[freedman]

Jordie Barretts sock said:

RLM were brilliant 20 years ago.

Now, not so much. They ramble too much these days, a bit too self indulgent. Hindhaugh being the worst. They miss too much track action because of it.

Hindhaugh's constant, when I drove a GT3 Aston (for example) at..(insert various circuits/events).is pretty wearing but as FR said above he has been integral to getting sportscar coverage to a wider audience

Wait until LM when they have Martin Haven join the team..

He appears incapable of pausing for breath, and argues about everything with everyone (Despite being in the wrong about 99% of the time)

Of course he is better than Carlton Kirby, and Mark Cole, who we had to put up with for years on Eurosport, but he really annoys me

We should be thankful that we get decent coverage of sportscars these days I guess, it hasn't always been the case

[732NM]

airbusA346 said:

Rowe Racing are throwing their toys out of the pram...

https://www.dailysportscar.com/2024/06/02/n24-resu...

Quite rightly too. Another race director who thinks he can make rules up on the fly ruins a major event result.

[ecsrobin]

732NM said:

Quite rightly too. Another race director who thinks he can make rules up on the fly ruins a major event result.

I wouldn’t say it’s ruined the event but I think they have a fair claim I was expecting a pause again not a finish and it seems some teams were too.

[freedman]

ecsrobin said:

I wouldn’t say it’s ruined the event but I think they have a fair claim I was expecting a pause again not a finish and it seems some teams were too.

Pretty clear from the TV coverage that Manthey thought something was amiss too, but they hadnt pitted

Though imagine they announced the result as Rowe said would be correct

It would be utterly bonkers to say that a car that finished 7th was the winner because of a calculator saying teams that hadn't pitted under the SC should be penalised by the expected pitstop time

That might make sense if the Rowe car actually needed to pit, so was disadvantaged by doing so, but they didn't and it wasn't. the team were trying to gain an advantage had the race had gone green again (which never looked remotely likely)

[ArnageWRC]

freedman said:

We should be thankful that we get decent coverage of sportscars these days I guess, it hasn't always been the case

We've never had it so good; a golden era. WEC, ELMS, IMSA, NLS/VLN, various SRO series, etc

I recall when RLM first started covering the N24, and it wasn't on You Tube......there was a German stream only.

[airbusA346]

ecsrobin said:

I wouldn’t say it’s ruined the event but I think they have a fair claim I was expecting a pause again not a finish and it seems some teams were too.

The teams were told before the formation laps started that if it hadn't cleared up enough after 5 laps that the race would be called.

So, 12:54 Uhr
Information aus der Rennleitung:
Um 13:20 Uhr wird das 10-Minuten-Schild gezeigt. Restart um 13:30 Uhr: es folgen fünf Runden hinter dem Führungsfahrzeug. Somit haben zumindest alle Fahrer die Möglichkeit, die Mindestrunden zu erreichen. Falls es in diesen fünf Runden aufklaren sollte, wird das Rennen dann freigegeben. Andernfalls wird das Rennen abgewinkt.

Sun, 12:54 pm
Information from the race management:
The 10-minute sign will be shown at 1:20 p.m. Restart at 1:30 p.m.: five laps follow behind the leading car. This means that at least all drivers have the opportunity to reach the minimum laps. If it clears up during these five laps, the race will be allowed to continue. Otherwise, the race will be waved off.


So, 14:50 Uhr
Information aus der Rennleitung: Das Rennen wird nach Absolvierung von fünf Runden hinter dem Führungsfahrzeug mit der Zielflagge abgewinkt.

Sun, 2:50 p.m.
Information from the race management: The race will be concluded with the checkered flag after completing five laps behind the leading vehicle.

[Bad Bernie]

Arnage -WRC

I have been to the Ring when there was no German commentary up on the Mountain......back in 1980.'s

That I can now watch the race plus have numerous in car and a full timing screen ...all on my TV/Laptop, with Brit commentary via RLM...is just amazing ...

Clearly some need spoon feeding.....

[Ahonen]

Jader1973 said:

I said this is a farce, not that they should restart.

I don’t understand the view that not running a 24 hour race is fine because it never happens anyway. If you can’t run a 24 hour race at this time of year because of the weather then move the race!

I definitely won’t be tuning in to watch the “Nurburgring more than likely not 24 hours but we’ll try out best” next year.

Good, then don't bother. I guess you've spent plenty of time at the Ring so you'll know, like the rest of us, that this type of weather can happen pretty much at any time of year there - just like it does down the road at Spa.

The weather was absolutely perfect on Monday, by the way. Frustrating...

[airbusA346]

Misha Charoudin's viewpoint on the 'race'...

TOTAL FAILURE & 💩Show: 24 Hours of Nürburgring 2024

Edited by airbusA346 on Friday 7th June 00:03

[jasonrobertson86]

airbusA346 said:

Misha Charoudin's viewpoint on the 'race'...

TOTAL FAILURE & ??Show: 24 Hours of Nürburgring 2024

Edited by airbusA346 on Friday 7th June 00:03

Very well presented. The think was very badly managed, I hope they can improve on 'I don't trust the weather station'.

[freedman]

airbusA346 said:

Misha Charoudin's viewpoint on the 'race'...

TOTAL FAILURE & ??Show: 24 Hours of Nürburgring 2024

Edited by airbusA346 on Friday 7th June 00:03

Interesting the race director made no mention of the helicopter being unable to fly, which I believed was effectively the trump card reasoning

The in car from 2021 showing the weather was far worse when they restarted the race then

Obviously we've only got one full side of the story here, but it looks pretty bad from the organisers taken at face value

[jasonrobertson86]

freedman said:

Interesting the race director made no mention of the helicopter being unable to fly, which I believed was effectively the trump card reasoning

The in car from 2021 showing the weather was far worse when they restarted the race then

Obviously we've only got one full side of the story here, but it looks pretty bad from the organisers taken at face value

There is no excuse for ending it 2hrs early with the whole weather station bs.

[freedman]

Listening to the Vanthoor brothers podcast this morning

Seems the driver of the GT4 that took out the leading BMW has had her ring permit removed (they said licence but I’m assuming it’s her ring permit)

The Grello decision to put slicks on was a team decision at the pit stop based on weather reports and the track at that moment

They were less than impressed with the decision to flag the race at the end of the 5 pace car laps

[jasonrobertson86]

freedman said:

Listening to the Vanthoor brothers podcast this morning

Seems the driver of the GT4 that took out the leading BMW has had her ring permit removed (they said licence but I’m assuming it’s her ring permit)

The Grello decision to put slicks on was a team decision at the pit stop based on weather reports and the track at that moment

They were less than impressed with the decision to flag the race at the end of the 5 pace car laps

People are always going to be 'less than impressed'. They were 'less than impressed' when they ran sections under code 60 before saying tyres were losing heat.

[ArnageWRC]

With their record, you expect Manthey to get tyre calls right most of the time - but they got it wrong this time....