One of Ten?

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Slow M

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2,787 posts

213 months

Friday 19th April
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Have a look at this video labeled TVR 3000M Cup
One of ten? Really?
The poster also has a video of himself going through a 3000M or Taimar which he's purchased, and he seems to be familiar with the marque.

There's something on the windshield, so he may simply be repeating what he read. Was it reprints of magazine articles?

Have any of you ever heard of this supposed run of cars? Is it pure fiction or reality based?

JohnMcL

147 posts

150 months

Friday 19th April
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Could be one of ten (to be) produced but not necessarily by TVR.

Moto

1,261 posts

260 months

Friday 19th April
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scratchchin Never heard of a "Cup" M series car. Sounds more 21Century terminology than 1970's. I'm no expert on 'M' cars but I'm sure one will be along shortly to support or rubbish the story.

Moto

Edited by Moto on Saturday 20th April 16:54

GTRene

17,784 posts

231 months

Friday 19th April
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never heard about such, but could have been a model made afterwards for a small cup series? so not official but more like a say tuner thing?

here they say this about it... in 2016 scrol to the bottom of the page?

https://www.zwischengas.com/de/VC/veranstaltungsbe...

said:
TVR 3000 M Cup (1976) - special model that was only built 10 times - on the club stand - Retro Classics Bavaria 2016
Copyright / Photographer: Bruno von Rotz
And as a visitor you were able to learn something new. Because this white 3000 M was a special model that was only built ten times and was equipped with no bumpers and simple small taillights with the aim of reducing weight. Only the model shown should exist.


https://www.zwischengas.com/de/VC/veranstaltungsbe...

Slow M

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213 months

Saturday 20th April
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JohnMcL said:
Could be one of ten (to be) produced but not necessarily by TVR.
I considered that possibility too.
Might have even been a dealer, in period.

Slow M

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Saturday 20th April
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Moto said:
:scratch chin: Never heard of a "Cup" M series car. Sounds more 21Century terminology than 1970's. I'm no expert on 'M' cars but I'm sure one will be along shortly to support or rubbish the story.

Moto
Here's hoping.

Slow M

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Saturday 20th April
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GTRene said:
never heard about such, but could have been a model made afterwards for a small cup series? so not official but more like a say tuner thing?

here they say this about it... in 2016 scrol to the bottom of the page?

https://www.zwischengas.com/de/VC/veranstaltungsbe...

said:
TVR 3000 M Cup (1976) - special model that was only built 10 times - on the club stand - Retro Classics Bavaria 2016
Copyright / Photographer: Bruno von Rotz
And as a visitor you were able to learn something new. Because this white 3000 M was a special model that was only built ten times and was equipped with no bumpers and simple small taillights with the aim of reducing weight. Only the model shown should exist.


https://www.zwischengas.com/de/VC/veranstaltungsbe...

In the original German, it's definite that ten were built, and at the end it says that this is supposedly the only survivor. That's statistically unlikely. Sondermodell translates most closely to special model, which is a term I've only ever heard used in connection with factory models, which doesn't mean that someone couldn't be applying it differently.

Any old way, it's fun and interesting for me to learn about specific versions, and about people's choices in how they want to skew the set of compromises that make up a car. Also, how those choices are implemented. I'm looking forward to learning more about this car.

All that said, it's really obvious to me that the front end modifications are an aerodynamic nightmare, causing lift and instability, and that to me makes it very unlikely for it to have been a factory effort.

Edited by Slow M on Saturday 20th April 15:06

GTRene

17,784 posts

231 months

Saturday 20th April
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indeed, as some mentioned, could be a club special for some country, like say the Bornemann TVR Cosworth also from some German car Tuner, but that name is also Bornemann TVR, and they made only 3 examples, so also not by TVR themselves (more a sort Restomod), but a lovely car and 375hp or so Cosworth and everything upgraded, also lovely interior and nice instruments.




V8Tolerancefit

6,319 posts

257 months

Monday 22nd April
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A very Rare Model.
in the states referred to as an M Cup. In the UK The J Cup. Not many Models around with those attributes. Certainly not with the missing Bumpers.

GAjon

3,804 posts

220 months

Monday 22nd April
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Never heard of any M cup or J cup M series cars being produced by TVR.

Never seen any pictures or literature of such a model.

No awareness of any M or J cup race series for M series TVRs.

Can anybody provide any evidence of this cars production status other than it’s an M series that’s had some modifications done to it by an independent?

I like it!

But claiming it was a limited production run ? I don’t think so, not by TVR anyway.

ETA. I am quite happy to be corrected and educated on this.

Edited by GAjon on Monday 22 April 20:49

GAjon

3,804 posts

220 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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V8Tolerancefit said:
rofl

I smell a rat in me kitchen.

Slow M

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2,787 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th April
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Another thing about the nose of that car. Manufacturers tend not to push massively uglified versions of their products into public view. Racing is just that. Publis view.

Still, I'd love to know more, even if it only turns out to be one person's failure to provide adequate ventilation when performing a polyester resin based repair. Things happen.

sct_w4

427 posts

164 months

Thursday 25th April
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Bits of the car don’t make sense as others have said, it’s the sunroof for me. On a race car or cup car why would you go through the effort of installing a sunroof. Much easier and stronger for the body not to fit it. I’d gamble this was actually a crash repair that may have been tracked or sprinted.