Needle descaler

Needle descaler

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calum62

Original Poster:

84 posts

49 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Has anyone here used a air powered needle descaler to remove rust on a TVR tubular chassis? In the past I've used a wire wheel on an angle grinder but its creates a lot of dust. The needle descalers look a lot less messy and also look like they will find weak rust spots due to the more aggressive action.

However unsure how well they will work on the small size tubes on a Taimar chassis. Also I only have a 25 litre compressor so not sure that's big enough.

Advice welcome

Cheers
Rob

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Had one for ages but don't use it much, pain in the arse for round things like chassis tubes, it only hits a very small area and can't get into joints easily. I gave up and sent the chassis for blasting and red oxide coating then painted it. Cost a few quid but I would never have got anywhere close to what they did.

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Thursday 7th January 2021
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Could be too aggressive on thin tube?used one many years ago on angle iron and seem to recall it being rather fierce!

And yes, I suspect it will need a good air supply but at 20 quid why not give it a go?


If chassis is completely stripped (not doing spot repairs on the car) sandblasting has got to be the way to go.

Edited by phillpot on Thursday 7th January 23:02

magpies

5,145 posts

189 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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I've used a needle gun in the past, good at small areas to rid new steel of scale, but very noisy.
I used a 40/60/ 80 grit flap disc designed for the grinderette and wear a mask and eye protection along with gloves. Less dust and more effective than a wire wheel.
www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-flap-disc-115mm-60-grit/2...

GAjon

3,804 posts

220 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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Time to engage man math/ logic mode!

If the body is off, your only a few nuts and bolts away from a bare chassis.
So strip it, send it for shot blasting, get it back uncoated, do the repairs required , send it back for final blast and chosen coating.

You may still need your needle gun for local areas and peripheral parts so it won’t be wasted.

InitialDave

12,235 posts

126 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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A needle gun is better for thick scales of rust, I use one and it's very effective, but I think doing a tubular chassis like a TVR would be a bit intricate to do with one.

calum62

Original Poster:

84 posts

49 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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Sounds as if I need to start phoning around local media blasing companies....

magpies

5,145 posts

189 months

Friday 8th January 2021
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calum62 said:
Sounds as if I need to start phoning around local media blasting companies....
Where abouts are you located?


Slow M

2,787 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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The best part about using this he needle gun is that it will penetrate a tube that’s been weakened by corrosion. If it’s weak enough to puncture, it shouldn’t be part of your chassis. My point is, its value is in identifying weak tubes. Yes, loud as fk.

calum62

Original Poster:

84 posts

49 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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magpies said:
Where abouts are you located?
10 miles inland from Aberdeen. Seems to be quite a few blasting companies related to oil and Gas , will be looking for one with experience of car work.


calum62

Original Poster:

84 posts

49 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Slow M said:
The best part about using this he needle gun is that it will penetrate a tube that’s been weakened by corrosion. If it’s weak enough to puncture, it shouldn’t be part of your chassis. My point is, its value is in identifying weak tubes. Yes, loud as fk.
Yea original my thoughts exactly, if they can take the agressive action of a needle gun they would surely be in okay nick. Have been doing a bit of flux core and stick welding outside of recent (on a shipping container , not trying to pass myself as a good welder though) and it did occur a needle descaler would also be good for cleaning off flux on welds. Will be using MIG gas for the chassis welding though.

I'm going to check the one I am looking at doesnt need any more CFM that my compressor can handle and if not buy it. Plan being to cleanup any suspect bits on my chassis which may need welding/replacement, fix them and then get the whole chassis blasted and epoxy primed.

Will report back with salacious photies in due course.

Slow M

2,787 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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Looking forward to seeing your progress.

Dollyman1850

6,319 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th January 2021
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I have been resisting commenting but...

If you are re=painting the forth bridge or maybe a WW2 tank then use a needle gun. On thin tube however totally the wrong bit of kit.. unless you just want to polish rust. The ONLY way to remove rust is to shot blast it. then replace any tubes which become pock marked or more likely holed.

N.

calum62

Original Poster:

84 posts

49 months

Sunday 10th January 2021
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Cheers appreciate the input.

Still In the process of stripping things down to get the body off. Seats out, bonnet off, front wheel arches off, clutch cable disconnected so far. Slow progress as many seized nuts and bolts to battle with. Fuel Tank next. Seeing many things that will need replacing including the wiring loom which is crap. I went thorough all the history and receipts the other day from the previous owner and sorted them by date to get an idea of whats been replaced and whats been done to the thing leading up to it being off the road for 22 years.

Will post up some pics

Cheers
Rob