Uprated Essex V6 Exhaust Gaskets?

Uprated Essex V6 Exhaust Gaskets?

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Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

277 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Wondering if anyone knows of any exhaust gaskets that are more heavy duty than the standard replacement items?

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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Erich Stahler said:
Wondering if anyone knows of any exhaust gaskets that are more heavy duty than the standard replacement items?
Silicone, no gasket. So long as the manifold flange is adequate thickness, should be no problem.

Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

277 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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TVRMs said:
Silicone, no gasket. So long as the manifold flange is adequate thickness, should be no problem.
Really, thats interesting most high temp silicon seems to be good up to 300c which I must be ample for manifold to head fixing.

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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It's what I've used in the past, even on Turbo v6s.

Touring car teams gasket of choice 🙃

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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What is 🙃 ?


Where can I get some, nothing coming up on Ebay search wink

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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phillpot said:
What is 🙃 ?


Where can I get some, nothing coming up on Ebay search wink
Apologies smilie issue smile

TaimarTurbo

98 posts

165 months

Friday 15th September 2017
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I've had good results with Permatex Ultra copper, which should be good for 700F/370C
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Permatex-RTV-Silicone-Ul...

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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TVRMs said:
Apologies smilie issue smile
My mistake, I thought the "🙃" was supposed to be a link or something to a particular brand favoured by Touring Car teams.

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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phillpot said:
TVRMs said:
Apologies smilie issue smile
My mistake, I thought the "🙃" was supposed to be a link or something to a particular brand favoured by Touring Car teams.
I'm not clever enough to do links Mike... smile

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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TVRMs said:
I'm not clever enough to do links Mike... smile
Getting the hang of smiley's though ... biggrin

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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phillpot said:
TVRMs said:
I'm not clever enough to do links Mike... smile
Getting the hang of smiley's though ... biggrin
Indeed laugh

liner33

10,780 posts

209 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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RTV is fine but the mating surfaces need to be perfectly flat , its been around 30 years since i worked on a essex but i seem to recall the manifolds had issues with warping ?

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 16th September 2017
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Good exhaust builders now provide a flange with adequate thickness. smile

chassyman

103 posts

165 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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liner 33 is quite correct and is what i thought right away on seeing the subject, when you fit the exhaust manifolds you have to draw file them across the fixing holes, each branch individually, you will be amazed how much dip and distortion there is on some of them. it is well worth the effort!!! best regards keith

Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

277 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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chassyman said:
liner 33 is quite correct and is what i thought right away on seeing the subject, when you fit the exhaust manifolds you have to draw file them across the fixing holes, each branch individually, you will be amazed how much dip and distortion there is on some of them. it is well worth the effort!!! best regards keith
yes that is the problem, some of the individual flanges are not mounting perfectly flat, have resolved it but doubling up the gaskets, with a double thickness they seem to have clamped up nice and gas tight.

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

156 months

Tuesday 19th September 2017
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Sorry Eric but i don't like using 2 gaskets.
Imho it's best to adjust and have all the Exhaust Manifold faces inline.
Alan

Erich Stahler

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2,878 posts

277 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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plasticpig72 said:
Sorry Eric but i don't like using 2 gaskets.
Imho it's best to adjust and have all the Exhaust Manifold faces inline.
Alan
In an ideal world would agree with you, but have one more race this season then will be pulling most of it apart over the winter anyway.

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Its a classic, manifold flanges are often not on a common plate so the pipes have to be "encouraged" to fit.
They do for a week, and then a weld starts to break and the manifold starts to blow. You have it welded and it moves a little due the welding and so its harder to fit the next time etc...

Individual pipes help the process..





Please ignore the sump smile

Erich Stahler

Original Poster:

2,878 posts

277 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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TVRMs said:
Its a classic, manifold flanges are often not on a common plate so the pipes have to be "encouraged" to fit.
They do for a week, and then a weld starts to break and the manifold starts to blow. You have it welded and it moves a little due the welding and so its harder to fit the next time etc...

Individual pipes help the process..





Please ignore the sump smile
Thats a beauty of an exhaust system, could I see some pics from above where the manifolds bolt onto the heads please?

Where did you get those made up?

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Advanced Automotive in Newcastle. Studs replaced since the pics.