Wishbone bushes

Wishbone bushes

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aureliusTVR

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102 posts

99 months

Friday 2nd June 2017
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Well, I knew as a mechanical newbie not to expect everything to run smoothly but even the smallest task is fighting me. When garage time is so hard to come by, (2 teenagers).
Last night I fitted the inner/outer races to the front hub, grease packed and fitted the outer. Tiny progress but enough to keep me content.
Tonight I removed the upper wishbone bushes and noted that each bush was split in half. (See pic) Is this a bodge by a previous owner after being unable to fit them intact?
These are poly but on Adrian's advice I'm using rubber for the uppers and poly for the lowers. Problem being I cannot get the rubber items to fit, using a vice and 2/3 in the rubber begins to bulge and refuses to go any further (see 2nd pic).
I'm sure I've read on another thread that these should be push fit?
Garage door locked and sulking.I will probably need a replacement bush after this stays out of shape overnight.




Edited by aureliusTVR on Friday 2nd June 22:17


Edited by aureliusTVR on Friday 2nd June 22:17


Edited by aureliusTVR on Friday 2nd June 22:21

Geoff38

789 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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The polybushes do come in two pieces , not a bodge
Sorry can't help with getting the rubber ones in other than to suggest a bit of Vaseline on them to help reduce resistance ?

GAjon

3,804 posts

220 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Use a slightly smaller diameter socket to push the bush through so the pressure is more central than on the shoulder if the bush.
Lubricate with washing up liquid.
Push the rubber in first then the push the metal sleeve through last.

Edited by GAjon on Saturday 3rd June 10:28

timelord

318 posts

290 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Make sure the inside of the wishbone sleeve is clean, a quick rub with emery cloth does the trick, then a liberal coating of soft soap, swarfega without gritty bits, usually helps the bushes slide in. Geoff

plasticpig72

1,647 posts

156 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Or WD40

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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[quote=aureliusTVR on Adrian's advice I'm using rubber for the uppers and poly for the lowers.
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I recall Adrian explaining the "logic" behind that when I had some bushes from him, not sure I understood it then and certainly don't remember now!




TwinKam

3,171 posts

102 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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A word of caution on your choice of lubricant eek...
Anything petrochemical based (eg Vaseline and Swarfega) will rot rubber (which is why water-based KY was invented...rubber... work it out...). Do you want to accelerate the rotting of your new rubbers?
Washing-up liquid is laden with salt (which is why you don't wash cars with it or use it in screen wash), do you want a salty liquid in your bare metal bush housings? another eeklaugh
Not sure about the rubber-rotting properties of WD40 as it's based on fish guts, but IT IS NOT A LUBRICANT!!! Rub some between your fingertips and you'll see. It's a (terribly outdated) penetrating 'oil' (without any oil).
Modern (ie synthetic) 'maintenance sprays' like GT75 and ACF-50 are more rubber friendly and better lubricants, but far and away your best friend is silicone grease, available in tubes from Maplins, RS Components etc. Effectively inert and proper slippery.

aureliusTVR

Original Poster:

102 posts

99 months

Saturday 3rd June 2017
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Ok, I was unaware of the 2 piece poly bushes, the new poly ones I have a single piece.
I was also unaware if ANY lubricant should be used depending on whether the bushes are supposed to remain tight in relation to the wishbone housing (and any movement should be taken up by the inner sleeve) If lube is suggested then I have red rubber grease which should do. Having said all the above, I'm still thinking the replacements are oversized, does anyone know if the wishbone bores varied over the years? It's a TVR, so they must have!


stainless_steve

6,034 posts

265 months

Sunday 4th June 2017
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aureliusTVR said:
Ok, I was unaware of the 2 piece poly bushes, the new poly ones I have a single piece.
I was also unaware if ANY lubricant should be used depending on whether the bushes are supposed to remain tight in relation to the wishbone housing (and any movement should be taken up by the inner sleeve) If lube is suggested then I have red rubber grease which should do. Having said all the above, I'm still thinking the replacements are oversized, does anyone know if the wishbone bores varied over the years? It's a TVR, so they must have!
Early M's have a smaller bore than the later ones.