Fabric sun roof
Discussion
In the 70s. I had a tvr tuscan with a wabesto sunroof ,I now own a 1969 vixen ongoing Restoration and would love to fit a fabric sunroof problem is I can't find one small enough ,plenty new old stock on the market but all to big to fit the vixen any member know were I can get one or have one for sale ?
That's exactly what i am up against at the moment with my 1976 3000M.
It seems the standard width is 34 3/4"(882mm) and the length is 21"(533mm)(TVR 3000M).
I think you can buy a standard roof e.g. width 882mm and then adjust the length.
Can you give information on addresses of standard kits for Britax Weathershield please.
I get the impression that it's CHASSE GARDER (protected domaine).
I am looking at renewing the Weathershield cover and also the rest of the Vinyl/Leathercloth/Rexin to keep my car original. It seems too easy just to replace the Weathershield cover only and loose forever the look as it left the factory
Alan
It seems the standard width is 34 3/4"(882mm) and the length is 21"(533mm)(TVR 3000M).
I think you can buy a standard roof e.g. width 882mm and then adjust the length.
Can you give information on addresses of standard kits for Britax Weathershield please.
I get the impression that it's CHASSE GARDER (protected domaine).
I am looking at renewing the Weathershield cover and also the rest of the Vinyl/Leathercloth/Rexin to keep my car original. It seems too easy just to replace the Weathershield cover only and loose forever the look as it left the factory
Alan
You could inquire here http://www.tudorwebastosunroofs.com/tudor_webasto_...
or here http://littleportboathaven.co.uk/car%20vinyl%20roo...
or here http://littleportboathaven.co.uk/car%20vinyl%20roo...
hi Tim,
thanks for coming to the rescue again. I have some samples from Segal Trim now and i'm waiting for another different shade.
The Vinyl you used from Segal was it with a rubberised back like original or with the material backing. I wonder if rubberised is needed for the sliding/folding part.
Do you remember what reference you used please.
Sorry for being a pain but i would just like to get it right first time.
Many thanks in advance
Alan
thanks for coming to the rescue again. I have some samples from Segal Trim now and i'm waiting for another different shade.
The Vinyl you used from Segal was it with a rubberised back like original or with the material backing. I wonder if rubberised is needed for the sliding/folding part.
Do you remember what reference you used please.
Sorry for being a pain but i would just like to get it right first time.
Many thanks in advance
Alan
plasticpig72 said:
hi Tim,
thanks for coming to the rescue again. I have some samples from Segal Trim now and i'm waiting for another different shade.
The Vinyl you used from Segal was it with a rubberised back like original or with the material backing. I wonder if rubberised is needed for the sliding/folding part.
Do you remember what reference you used please.
Sorry for being a pain but i would just like to get it right first time.
Many thanks in advance
Alan
Hi Alan,thanks for coming to the rescue again. I have some samples from Segal Trim now and i'm waiting for another different shade.
The Vinyl you used from Segal was it with a rubberised back like original or with the material backing. I wonder if rubberised is needed for the sliding/folding part.
Do you remember what reference you used please.
Sorry for being a pain but i would just like to get it right first time.
Many thanks in advance
Alan
I think we have our wires crossed, I've not fitted a vinyl roof but I am considering a sunroof to replace the glass hatch currently fitted. Littleport Boathaven is pretty local to me and I know they deal with both types of roof, I thought it might be useful to you. Have you got the timing cover yet?
Tim
Sorry Tim,
i was getting mixed with Chris52 who DIY recovered the roof on his car.
I contacted Adrian and he does not want to supply as a DIY. I am looking for only the Vinyl cover Fawn/ Parchment colour and the back holding plate. Running along the side edges the seams in the Vinyl are welded. I think what i will do is contact the local specialist who fitted a head lining in my 1600M. I prefered the idea of welded seams in the Vinyl as original.
The size on my 3000M for the cover is 34 3/4" X 21" so it is the standard width for Weathershield and you can easily adjust the length 21" to get the right tension.
I am sure i will find a solution and when i do i will post info
Alan
i was getting mixed with Chris52 who DIY recovered the roof on his car.
I contacted Adrian and he does not want to supply as a DIY. I am looking for only the Vinyl cover Fawn/ Parchment colour and the back holding plate. Running along the side edges the seams in the Vinyl are welded. I think what i will do is contact the local specialist who fitted a head lining in my 1600M. I prefered the idea of welded seams in the Vinyl as original.
The size on my 3000M for the cover is 34 3/4" X 21" so it is the standard width for Weathershield and you can easily adjust the length 21" to get the right tension.
I am sure i will find a solution and when i do i will post info
Alan
Edited by plasticpig72 on Sunday 15th January 08:10
quote Tim"Have you got the timing cover yet?"
Yes Tim and it's spot on, well pleased. Early type with bearing boss off set to right, so i can fit short Zodiac fan belt.
Sorry for going off the subject boys.
Info: i have just recieved Vinyl sample from Woolies and it looks better for the Weathershield and covering the roof. Not too stretchy and more solid than the Segal Vinyl. I'm just waiting for a sample from Martrim exterior Vinyl.
Alan
Yes Tim and it's spot on, well pleased. Early type with bearing boss off set to right, so i can fit short Zodiac fan belt.
Sorry for going off the subject boys.
Info: i have just recieved Vinyl sample from Woolies and it looks better for the Weathershield and covering the roof. Not too stretchy and more solid than the Segal Vinyl. I'm just waiting for a sample from Martrim exterior Vinyl.
Alan
The standard sunroof in an MGBGT is the correct width and similar curvature but too long. However, it is very easy to shorten both the outer cover and the channels to fit. Big advantage is that the later ones have an internal steel ring frame that strengthens the fibreglass roof and must help to prevent screen popping.
I know this works as I replaced my original Vixen S2 sunroof with one of these some years ago when you could buy a decent one for £80. Somewhere on here there is an old thread about this.
Steve
I know this works as I replaced my original Vixen S2 sunroof with one of these some years ago when you could buy a decent one for £80. Somewhere on here there is an old thread about this.
Steve
No problems and I am 6'2". I would never want to contradict Adrian but the head lining with a sunroof fitted is probably drawn up higher than on a non-sunroof car as it has to meet the aperture. Photo of internal ring frame below:-
Can look for other pics if this is of interest.
Steve
Can look for other pics if this is of interest.
Steve
Away from my PC until the weekend but will look for photos then.
It is a Britax Weathershield. Early MGB GTs had the same design as the Vixen and 'M'; that is thin polished aluminium channels bolted directly to the roof without the internal frame. The change to the internal frame design with thicker external black aluminium channels, I suspect came to the MG when they did the major upgrade to that lovely rubber bumper model around 1974. However, I do not believe TVR ever used this design.
Steve
It is a Britax Weathershield. Early MGB GTs had the same design as the Vixen and 'M'; that is thin polished aluminium channels bolted directly to the roof without the internal frame. The change to the internal frame design with thicker external black aluminium channels, I suspect came to the MG when they did the major upgrade to that lovely rubber bumper model around 1974. However, I do not believe TVR ever used this design.
Steve
These are photos of the MGBGT sliding element of the roof when purchased:-
Here it is as fitted to the VIXEN and also with the sliding roof taken out of the channels:-
Sorry do not have a complete picture of the internal ring frame but I think you can see how it all comes together from the above. To reduce its length, I took material out of both the external channels and the internal frame at the front. The later obviously had to be welded back together as previous pic above. The sliding roof requires the two rearmost panels and the centre guide to be discarded. Fortunately, the outer cover on the one I obtained was in good condition. This just needed to be pealed of the rear end plate, shortened and re-glued. There are also a couple of guide tapes either side of the roof lining, as I remember, that need work.
Inspect the end plates as best you can before buying. Any sign of rust under the vinyl, then walk away. They are double curvature with all that implies to replace.
I am not saying this is the perfect solution but it is a feasible option to consider.
Steve
Here it is as fitted to the VIXEN and also with the sliding roof taken out of the channels:-
Sorry do not have a complete picture of the internal ring frame but I think you can see how it all comes together from the above. To reduce its length, I took material out of both the external channels and the internal frame at the front. The later obviously had to be welded back together as previous pic above. The sliding roof requires the two rearmost panels and the centre guide to be discarded. Fortunately, the outer cover on the one I obtained was in good condition. This just needed to be pealed of the rear end plate, shortened and re-glued. There are also a couple of guide tapes either side of the roof lining, as I remember, that need work.
Inspect the end plates as best you can before buying. Any sign of rust under the vinyl, then walk away. They are double curvature with all that implies to replace.
I am not saying this is the perfect solution but it is a feasible option to consider.
Steve
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