Vixen Uprights - Dimensions

Vixen Uprights - Dimensions

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StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Hello all, think I know the answer but on the basis that if you don't ask then you don't get....

I'm looking to upgrade the rear end on my Vixen V8. I've seen the existing options & while I think either of the more commonly trodden paths would do the job I'm considering engjneering something to suit what I'm after.

Does anyone have an outline dimensioned drawing of the rear upright & hub as used on the Vixen S2?

Either that or does anyone have a spare that I could measure up?

To put a little context behind my thinking :

I'm looking at using something like sierra rear hubs, bearing carriers, stub axles & CV driveshafts. This would allow fitment of rear discs & also maybe even use the sierra diff.

The rear upright would be fabricated in the style of the later TVRs.

An alternative would be to use BMW hardware.

Can anyone help?

If not I'll strip a corner off mine & get measuring!

Thanks,

Stew.

Edited by StewB_v6 on Wednesday 7th December 08:39

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

156 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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StewB_v6 said:
Hello all, think I know the answer but on the basis that if you don't ask then you don't get....

I'm looking to upgrade the rear end on my Vixen V8. I've seen the existing options & while I think either of the mkre comminky trodden paths would do the job I'm considering engjneering something to suit what I'm after.

Does anyone have an outline dimensioned drawing of the rear upright & hub as used on the Vixen S2?

Either that or does anyone have a spare that I could measure up?

To put a little context behind my thinking :

I'm looking at using something like sierra rear hubs, bearing carriers, stub axles & CV driveshafts. This would allow fitment of rear discs & also maybe even use the sierra diff.

The rear upright would be fabricated in the style of the later TVRs.

An alternative would be to use BMW hardware.

Can anyone help?

If not I'll strip a corner off mine & get measuring!

Thanks,

Stew.
What are you currently running on the car Differential wise
A

Dollyman1850

6,319 posts

257 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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StewB_v6 said:
Hello all, think I know the answer but on the basis that if you don't ask then you don't get....

I'm looking to upgrade the rear end on my Vixen V8. I've seen the existing options & while I think either of the mkre comminky trodden paths would do the job I'm considering engjneering something to suit what I'm after.

Does anyone have an outline dimensioned drawing of the rear upright & hub as used on the Vixen S2?

Either that or does anyone have a spare that I could measure up?

To put a little context behind my thinking :

I'm looking at using something like sierra rear hubs, bearing carriers, stub axles & CV driveshafts. This would allow fitment of rear discs & also maybe even use the sierra diff.

The rear upright would be fabricated in the style of the later TVRs.

An alternative would be to use BMW hardware.

Can anyone help?

If not I'll strip a corner off mine & get measuring!

Thanks,

Stew.
You could look to the kit car industry rather than re-invent the wheel?

Re rear end configurations….It has all been done before.



Also another option,



I re-invented the wheel once upon a time.. smile

N.


StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Hello all. Car is presently running a Salisbury 4HU (open diff). I'd like to go LSD which is straightforward enough. It is however heavy! Either way I need to swap the diff.

I've looked around & seen that there have been lots of different takes on the theme, my thinking was to do something bolt on using as much oem hardware as possible. Using the ford hardware I think that worst case would be a pair of made to measure driveshafts which are readily available & relatively good value.

The upright can easily be made to suit the existing wishbones & whichever (bolt on) hub/bearing carrier.

I'd like to get away from the sliding joints & UJs if possible as they're all wear points (I do recognise that there is nothing wrong with the setup & it's been used to great success).

Either way I want to do it so that it can have all if the original bits put back on.

Cheers,

Stew

tomtrout

595 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Hi Stew

Where are you located? I have an original S2 upright you could borrow to do your measurements.

StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Hi, I'm based in the Midlands, fairly close to the NEC.

That would be very good & save me pulling my car to bits!

Thanks,

Stew.

Andrew Gray

4,969 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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There are Suppliers out there that do up rated Uprights like the original but in better materials and not 40 years Old
David Gerald and Nigel Reubens Can supply.Nigel also has new parts from Quills to Flanges etc as Original but in stronger material Outer Flange is i believe larger on the Tuscan your probably still running the Vixen ones.
Not Cheap but well worth the investment if your planning on using the car as it was intended
Andrew

allegerita

259 posts

204 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Dollyman1850 said:
You could look to the kit car industry rather than re-invent the wheel?

Re rear end configurations….It has all been done before.



Also another option,



I re-invented the wheel once upon a time.. smile

N.
Hello Dollyman,

Do you have these uprights and are these available for sale? are they machined or as on the photo?

Jerry-nsnl3

55 posts

88 months

Monday 18th February 2019
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Hi Stew,
Don't know if you are sorted now, but if you fancy a trip from the Midlands to Bristol you are welcome to take measurements from my chassis. The project S3 Vixen I bought 18 months ago, came with a new chassis purchased by him 12 years previously from the man at that time making replacement chassis'for TVR (he was retiring at that time). He had it built to accept a TR6 differential and I was supplied with a differntial ready to fit, so might be what you are after.
Jerry

Astacus

3,483 posts

241 months

Tuesday 19th February 2019
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That sounds like TVR Classics. They are still around

StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Tuesday 5th March 2019
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Hi, I've managed to measure one of my existing rear uprights to make fabricated replacements. They're ready to fit now to enable me to measure up for driveshafts. I'll see if I can upload some pics. Thanks for the offer to measure up though!

Cheers, Stew.

le chouan

27 posts

76 months

Saturday 6th April 2019
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Hello, i no it's an old topic but i'm searching for stronger uprights for a grantura with v8.
I've heard about aluminium ones with sierra internals but can't find it anywhere...
Does anyone know something about it?

Granturas

88 posts

166 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Are the measures and drawing of these uprights still needed? I have professionally made drawings for CNC mashinig of the Vixen S1 uprights. I got it made as I was planning to produce uprights for my cars. If these files are no more needed I might be interested where I can get these uprights either mashined or as raw casting.
Klaus Witzig

Adrian@

4,386 posts

289 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Klaus,
As you will know..and I am curious, the different versions that I have laying around, is the thinner version Vixen S1 then the other stepped version Vixen S2 on.
A@


StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Hi, I ended up going for fabricated rather than cast (all of the later TVRs used fabricated rear uprights). I have gone a bit on the chunky side in the interests of robustness but amazingly I have added less than 0.5kg of unsprung mass at each rear corner taking into account the switch from drums to discs with alloy calipers.

They are made from a combination of 8mm (all except faceplate) & 10mm (faceplate) T304 stainless which was lasercut then tigged.

Not exactly beautiful but pretty solid! The hubs / bearings & outer joints are Nissan S13 200sx which incidentally has a 4x4.5" PCD plus an easily adapted spigot and 4 bolt fixing flange, bearing is a chunky single piece dual row ball race designed for a much bigger car - it's actually the same bearing as used on the Skyline). I took the liberty of adding 20mm of track each side which allows me to use wheels with a sensible offset. Other than the brakes etc they are a straight bolt on job. I've used 108mm bolt on CVs at the diff end with custom adaptors (I have a Salibury diff) with custom shafts. Seems to work well so far.

Apols for the terrible pics......








Cheers, Stew.

Dollyman1850

6,319 posts

257 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Nice Job. smile

Incidentally the 4.5 PCD on a lot of Japanese cars is a throwback to us winning the war.. We helped them start up car production with the Austin Devon.. Hence a lot of Japanese cars still often use Imperial PCD's and fixings.. even today.. :-)

Neil.

Edited by Dollyman1850 on Monday 15th April 23:53

StewB_v6

Original Poster:

77 posts

107 months

Tuesday 16th April 2019
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Yep, old Hondas (the later ones are metric) & the older Nissan (Datsun) stuff. I've actually gone for Datsun 240Z fitment wheels (using M12x1.25 studs front & rear).

Stew.