Original TVR Bitsa at Angian car Auction
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Sorry Hans thought this deserves its own thread rather than spoiling the other one and taking it off topic?
I thought you would have recognised the car as an Original Bitsa
Andrew
http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...
I thought you would have recognised the car as an Original Bitsa
Andrew
http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...
interesting looking thing.
Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
ETA: Click on the picture on the website and you get the usual load of pictures.
To me it looks very much like an 1800S that has been modified by substituting the interior from an M, tinkering with the front of the bonnet and changing the engine bay air vent.
I don't think it will make that sort of money
rats too late with the update!
Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
ETA: Click on the picture on the website and you get the usual load of pictures.
To me it looks very much like an 1800S that has been modified by substituting the interior from an M, tinkering with the front of the bonnet and changing the engine bay air vent.
I don't think it will make that sort of money
rats too late with the update!
Edited by Astacus on Sunday 20th December 12:30
Edited by Astacus on Sunday 20th December 12:32
Astacus said:
interesting looking thing.
Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
there are more when you klik on that one picture, or did you meant even more then those>Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/en/classic-auct...
Astacus said:
interesting looking thing.
Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
I guess restorable back to 1800s Difficult to tell how much is 1800S. The roof looks more M series, but maybe thats just the vinyl. Front dam obviously tinkered with. I wish there were more photos
I doubt it will fetch the asking price, but it might reasonable money if it hasn't been to heavily mucked about with
A bit of a shame really Geoff and Richards cars that are being built at the moment are not damaging anything Original just using parts from other less rare cars that where salvage does seem a strange thing to do to an 1800s but may well have been done at a time when these cars where as cheap as chips second hand and they re built it with whatever lay to hand
Andrew
Edited by Andrew Gray on Sunday 20th December 16:43
Now Ive seen the other pictures, the rear panel looks OK to be 1800S. The widow frames might be too. Door hinges are early Vixen/1800S, so I am thinking that the tub is probably 1800S. The petrol filler is M series though so I don't know whats going on there.
In the engine bay, the air vent looks to have some sort of boxing round it. No sure what that is
The brake system has been updated
I don't know whats going on where the heater used to be and the wheel arches have been chopped about.
Water header tank is one of the several styles in the early vixens and 1800s
In the engine bay, the air vent looks to have some sort of boxing round it. No sure what that is
The brake system has been updated
I don't know whats going on where the heater used to be and the wheel arches have been chopped about.
Water header tank is one of the several styles in the early vixens and 1800s
Astacus said:
Now Ive seen the other pictures, the rear panel looks OK to be 1800S. The widow frames might be too. Door hinges are early Vixen/1800S, so I am thinking that the tub is probably 1800S. The petrol filler is M series though so I don't know whats going on there.
In the engine bay, the air vent looks to have some sort of boxing round it. No sure what that is
The brake system has been updated
I don't know whats going on where the heater used to be and the wheel arches have been chopped about.
Water header tank is one of the several styles in the early vixens and 1800s
Well spotted I should have looked closer its the vent and door handles that caught my attention first its really a strange one In the engine bay, the air vent looks to have some sort of boxing round it. No sure what that is
The brake system has been updated
I don't know whats going on where the heater used to be and the wheel arches have been chopped about.
Water header tank is one of the several styles in the early vixens and 1800s
its an old 1800s that has been around for a very long time, owned and used and modified / fettled through its life….
It needs to be bought and enjoyed for exactly what it is…
This owning / fettling and enjoying is what most TVR enthusiasts have been doing for years and years.
Not everything needs to be returned to some point in time where a line needs to be drawn in the sand for someones idea of originality. This is what makes TVR's special.
(and before anyone jumps in or over reacts. This is a general point not aimed at anyone)
That car tells a great story. What a shame it would be to destroy the story.
N.
It needs to be bought and enjoyed for exactly what it is…
This owning / fettling and enjoying is what most TVR enthusiasts have been doing for years and years.
Not everything needs to be returned to some point in time where a line needs to be drawn in the sand for someones idea of originality. This is what makes TVR's special.
(and before anyone jumps in or over reacts. This is a general point not aimed at anyone)
That car tells a great story. What a shame it would be to destroy the story.
N.
Keeping the car as it is its a Valid point of view obviously not shared by all however will be interesting to read the history if they have any when they put the details up of the car closer to the auction plus what quality the work has been done to as well as pictures don't tell all the story.
Andrew
Andrew
Dollyman1850 said:
its an old 1800s that has been around for a very long time, owned and used and modified / fettled through its life….
It needs to be bought and enjoyed for exactly what it is…
This owning / fettling and enjoying is what most TVR enthusiasts have been doing for years and years.
Not everything needs to be returned to some point in time where a line needs to be drawn in the sand for someones idea of originality. This is what makes TVR's special.
(and before anyone jumps in or over reacts. This is a general point not aimed at anyone)
That car tells a great story. What a shame it would be to destroy the story.
N.
Yes that's a great unique car, lots of history and looks well done. Cheap at the lower estimate I reckon, so if it stacks up in the flesh someone may be very pleased to get it. Private plate?It needs to be bought and enjoyed for exactly what it is…
This owning / fettling and enjoying is what most TVR enthusiasts have been doing for years and years.
Not everything needs to be returned to some point in time where a line needs to be drawn in the sand for someones idea of originality. This is what makes TVR's special.
(and before anyone jumps in or over reacts. This is a general point not aimed at anyone)
That car tells a great story. What a shame it would be to destroy the story.
N.
GTRene said:
also the side vents are the wrong way, backwards?
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Personally I think it is a lovely thing.. an 1800s with a lovely interior and modified so it is a lovely car to use everyday..[img]
This is typical of what happened to cars in 70's / 80's and some details give hints to very very well thought out modifications which show it was built well.. The lights at front are quite carefully positioned, the Capri / M type door handles beautifully frenched into the door. Similarly the rear fuel filler inset with very careful fibreglass work so it is flush with the body. The vents were most likely installed as a later addition, similarly the rear numberplate light I would change to original..
Everyone was fitting vinyl roofs back in the 70's or is it hiding an old sunroof.
To me the car looks very well appointed inside and it is clear that this has been someones pride an joy for a long long time..
what a shame it would be to spoil it by turning it into something which wasn't as comfortable, or useable just for originalities sake?
N.
I agree with the majority - it should be left as is. A lot of time has gone into the quality work done and there must be some interesting history worth digging out about who did it and why. Shame it's just a bit ugly - sorry aesthetically challenging is probably more PC. To me the lines just don't quite come together, although putting the Vixen side vents on the right way round would make a big improvement in my eyes and just add further to it's history.
Perhaps the next owner should continue the theme and modify it with some Sagaris elements.
Perhaps the next owner should continue the theme and modify it with some Sagaris elements.
Moto said:
I agree with the majority - it should be left as is. A lot of time has gone into the quality work done and there must be some interesting history worth digging out about who did it and why. Shame it's just a bit ugly - sorry aesthetically challenging is probably more PC. To me the lines just don't quite come together, although putting the Vixen side vents on the right way round would make a big improvement in my eyes and just add further to it's history.
Perhaps the next owner should continue the theme and modify it with some Sagaris elements.
Some slats on the top of the bonnet may look pretty good Perhaps the next owner should continue the theme and modify it with some Sagaris elements.
N
Dollyman1850 said:
Personally I think it is a lovely thing.. an 1800s with a lovely interior and modified so it is a lovely car to use everyday..
This is typical of what happened to cars in 70's / 80's and some details give hints to very very well thought out modifications which show it was built well.. The lights at front are quite carefully positioned, the Capri / M type door handles beautifully frenched into the door. Similarly the rear fuel filler inset with very careful fibreglass work so it is flush with the body. The vents were most likely installed as a later addition, similarly the rear numberplate light I would change to original..
Everyone was fitting vinyl roofs back in the 70's or is it hiding an old sunroof.
To me the car looks very well appointed inside and it is clear that this has been someones pride an joy for a long long time..
what a shame it would be to spoil it by turning it into something which wasn't as comfortable, or useable just for originalities sake?
Spot on.
N.
This is typical of what happened to cars in 70's / 80's and some details give hints to very very well thought out modifications which show it was built well.. The lights at front are quite carefully positioned, the Capri / M type door handles beautifully frenched into the door. Similarly the rear fuel filler inset with very careful fibreglass work so it is flush with the body. The vents were most likely installed as a later addition, similarly the rear numberplate light I would change to original..
Everyone was fitting vinyl roofs back in the 70's or is it hiding an old sunroof.
To me the car looks very well appointed inside and it is clear that this has been someones pride an joy for a long long time..
what a shame it would be to spoil it by turning it into something which wasn't as comfortable, or useable just for originalities sake?
Spot on.
N.
I think it looks great as is. And I think that the unusual heater system could be air con.
I would love to own that car and just leave it exactly as it is bar the side vents just couldn't live with those put on upside down and not recessed.
I even like the inrerior and I'm not a fan of that colour in the Ms.
Chris
I would love to own that car and just leave it exactly as it is bar the side vents just couldn't live with those put on upside down and not recessed.
I even like the inrerior and I'm not a fan of that colour in the Ms.
Chris
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