Taimar rear diff.

Taimar rear diff.

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clive f

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7,250 posts

240 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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cleaning up the rear diff today, and need to get a new oil seal for the front flange, pinion seal?

searching old threads this appears to be a Salisbury diff, 4HU, but cannot see any info regards to what ratio it might be, just out of interest, there is a tab on one of the rear cover bolts stamped 43 over 13, not sure of its relevance.





a quick look on the bay comes up with lots of Landrover options, so assume this diff used in all sorts of cars, but need to make sure of right type to get the seals, the front seal is stamped 18891, C/R USA.

anyone shed some light on this?

Terminator

2,421 posts

291 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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clive f said:
there is a tab on one of the rear cover bolts stamped 43 over 13, not sure of its relevance.
It originally came from Jaguar.

43 over 13 is the ratio; divide 43 by 13 and you get 3.307 which is the standard ratio TVR used. I've driven a converted 5-litre which had a 2.89 ratio and it appeared to be very sluggish.

edited to make sense - it is a Sunday, after all


Edited by Terminator on Sunday 2nd February 12:58

heightswitch

6,319 posts

257 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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Terminator said:
clive f said:
there is a tab on one of the rear cover bolts stamped 43 over 13, not sure of its relevance.
It originally came from Jaguar.

43 over 13 is the ratio; divide 43 by 13 and you get 3.307 which is the standard ratio TVR used. I've driven a converted 5-litre which had a 2.89 ratio and it appeared to be very sluggish.

edited to make sense - it is a Sunday, after all


Edited by Terminator on Sunday 2nd February 12:58
A 3.31 is a good ratio especially if sticking with a 4sp box.

Original V8 pre-m TVR's used 3.07, other ratios available are 3.31, 3.54 (3.0 M series) and 2.88..slow and sluggish
3.54's seem to give best all round results for 5sp cars they are also hardest to find in good used lsd since all the cobra boys also want them.
Are you just installing a std diff ?

Other ratios are available from specialists

Jag breakers are your best source of units fitted to daimler hearse and limos. pre 1979 XJ6, Pre-79 XJS, also all earlier IRS Jags.

If you are not good at arithmetic then put a tipp ex mark on an output shaft stud and rotate it through 360 degrees then count how many times the main pinion shaft turns.

N.


Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 2nd February 14:10


Edited by heightswitch on Sunday 2nd February 14:11

ivanhoew

1,005 posts

248 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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mine is a 3.54 lsd , bought from a chap with a Tuscan in about 1987, would that have been stock in his car ?

robert

hallsie

2,184 posts

227 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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Message me.

Ive got 2, one with a rubber sealing face and one with an original leather seal face, as I changed mine recently I know these are the correct ones.

Stu

heightswitch

6,319 posts

257 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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ivanhoew said:
mine is a 3.54 lsd , bought from a chap with a Tuscan in about 1987, would that have been stock in his car ?

robert
Tuscan V6 Not sure what original fitment was ratio wise..it may have been 3.54 Not sure if LSD was an option..Mr Reid will know
all V8's were 3.07 originally
M's later had 3.54's fitted originally TR6 diffs

N.

clive f

Original Poster:

7,250 posts

240 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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yes I`m sticking with the 4 speed box, just need to know where to get seals from?

thanks for all info chaps:thumbsup:

ivanhoew

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248 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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heightswitch said:
Tuscan V6 Not sure what original fitment was ratio wise..it may have been 3.54 Not sure if LSD was an option..Mr Reid will know
all V8's were 3.07 originally
M's later had 3.54's fitted originally TR6 diffs

N.
it had a v8 in it , I'd assumed in a v6 car ,but maybe original v8 Tuscan,it was a sort of maroon colour with lots and lots of little holes on the front of the bonnet .

Mr Tiger

406 posts

135 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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heightswitch said:
Tuscan V6 Not sure what original fitment was ratio wise..it may have been 3.54 Not sure if LSD was an option..Mr Reid will know
all V8's were 3.07 originally
M's later had 3.54's fitted originally TR6 diffs

N.
According to the Motor - July 1969, the Tuscan V6 had a 3.31 although I think the ratio may have changed at some point during its short production run.
I think The TR6 diff was a 3.45 as standard. The 3000M the Autocar tested in November '74 is listed as a 3.45.
I'd love to identify the ratio on my 2500. Do I need to compare the number prop shaft turns with a drive shaft rotation?

Chris

Slow M

2,787 posts

213 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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ivanhoew said:
it had a v8 in it , I'd assumed in a v6 car ,but maybe original v8 Tuscan,it was a sort of maroon colour with lots and lots of little holes on the front of the bonnet .
So, it must be a genetic condition. biggrin


Best,
B.

lukebryan

46 posts

139 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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I agree that the tuscan V6 had a 3.31 diff and believe that lsd was not an option. I have just removed a 3.31 from my car and am replacing it with a lsd 3.54 and 5 speed T9 box.........possibly more user friendly depending on the purpose.
If anybody is in need of a 3.31 diff please make contact.

prideaux

4,969 posts

156 months

Sunday 2nd February 2014
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lukebryan said:
I agree that the tuscan V6 had a 3.31 diff and believe that lsd was not an option. I have just removed a 3.31 from my car and am replacing it with a lsd 3.54 and 5 speed T9 box.........possibly more user friendly depending on the purpose.
If anybody is in need of a 3.31 diff please make contact.
Sounds like she will be a great car mate will look forward to seeing her on the road soon
A

okinchi

38 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Hi,
I also need the pinion oil seal for my 78 Taimar with Salisbury Diff. Are there more than one seals / dimension?
And - where to get it?

THanks

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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I thought Tuscan was 3.54?? With an LSD option. You've got me thinking now I'll have to check.
Fitting a LSD form a random jag is a risky business as the TVR is lighter and the first time you realise the ramp angles aren't right is when you're going sideways.

phillpot

17,279 posts

190 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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Useful advice re leather/rubber seals in this Ebay listing



are you sure it's the rear diff that's leaking wink

ivanhoew

1,005 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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V6Pushfit said:
I thought Tuscan was 3.54?? With an LSD option. You've got me thinking now I'll have to check.
Fitting a LSD form a random jag is a risky business as the TVR is lighter and the first time you realise the ramp angles aren't right is when you're going sideways.
my 3.54 lsd came from a chap with a v8 tuscan ,whether it was a v6 converted i don't know , it was a maroon car .with a multitude of little inch sized round holes in the front for air flow .

there is a little drag when moving one wheel by hand with it jacked up ,so i would say its a loose one .it definitely works though.


regards
robert



DavidY

4,474 posts

291 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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It was a V6 converted, with Tuscan Cobra emblazoned down the side. It was about at some of the Berkshire meetings late 80's early 90's. The owner (whose name I can't remember) competed in quite successfully in Sprints and Hill climbs, and held a class record at Ragley Hall.

ivanhoew

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248 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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well done David .

oliverb205

705 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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DavidY said:
It was a V6 converted, with Tuscan Cobra emblazoned down the side. It was about at some of the Berkshire meetings late 80's early 90's. The owner (whose name I can't remember) competed in quite successfully in Sprints and Hill climbs, and held a class record at Ragley Hall.


Nick Beagley was the owner when this was taken at Blackpool in April 1990.

Oliver.

ATE399J

729 posts

244 months

Thursday 14th July 2016
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DavidY said:
It was a V6 converted, with Tuscan Cobra emblazoned down the side. It was about at some of the Berkshire meetings late 80's early 90's. The owner (whose name I can't remember) competed in quite successfully in Sprints and Hill climbs, and held a class record at Ragley Hall.
Nick Beagley?

It was red with chrome rings around the holes in the bonnet, he used to go to Colin Parry's North London meeting sometimes.

Dang Oliverb! You beat me to it!!