3000M - upgrading to modern spec

[vejnoe]

A brief update on my M project. Car was bought from a nice chap in Uttoxeter last summer, quite some miles but have allways been taken good care of. I had some plesant time with it last summer, doing around 1000 miles. But you could feel the age and the miles it had done. And from beeing involved in quite some rebuild projects of Triumphs's and Jag's was the decision quite easy.

Why not catch up on the last 35 years and replace the non TVR bits from Triumph and Ford with some bits from BMW and Jaguar, and make a sub 5 sec car with 800 kg and 270 bhp (I have a Rotrex supercharger in stock if it ain't enought :-)

Body of on 1 oct


Chassis had som aditional 10m of tubing + new front suspension design with BMW E46 uprights and brakes


Rear end narrowed a bit + converted to accomodate VW calipers, bmw E39 bearings, E60 ARB adjustable and E36 disc's + a M3 LSD



Engine is replaced with Jaguar S 3.0 V6 engine and gearbox, exhaust. prop shaft, driveshaft etc. is home made




And this is the classic TVR rebuild shot's







Still a bit work left, Body will soon go back on, electrics TBD, VEMS ECU and intake plenum manufacturing. Plan is to get her rolling in mid may

BR Mads

Edited by vejnoe on Tuesday 2nd April 22:23

Edited by vejnoe on Tuesday 2nd April 22:29

[lazyitus]

Looks fabulous. Keep up the good work and don't forget to show us the finished article!

[GTRene]

excellent so far, keep on doing the good work.

[gmw9666]

Fantastics Mads.......the Jag V6 is a fine choice and quite cheap to get hold of

[pridaux]

October to now and that far already i hope we will see her at the Pre 80s in september that is fast work or Zolder in May
Andrew

Edited by pridaux on Wednesday 3rd April 15:43

[gmw9666]

You also get 10/10 for your garage..........more like a operating theater

[heightswitch]

Nice.
N.

[tomtrout]

Wow. Much respect. Thanks for sharing.

[GAjon]

Very nice, I do get envious of people who actually do the things I daydream about doing.

[griff 200]

I was thinking of using that engine in my 3000 m rebuild but thought it was to wide and after putting a v6 cosworth in my s3 and finding that making the exhaust manifolds was by far the worst part chose a different engine. But very well done its nice to see someone thinking out side of the box when rebuilding old tvr,s. on the inlet manifold frount, have you thought of the 2.5 v6 one as its very tidy still makes good power ,it's been used in a lotus v6 convershion and looks great . home made inlet manifolds are a black art in making power tourqe etc? But good luck and keep up the good work. Richard

[madsvlund]

griff 200 said:

I was thinking of using that engine in my 3000 m rebuild but thought it was to wide and after putting a v6 cosworth in my s3 and finding that making the exhaust manifolds was by far the worst part chose a different engine. But very well done its nice to see someone thinking out side of the box when rebuilding old tvr,s. on the inlet manifold frount, have you thought of the 2.5 v6 one as its very tidy still makes good power ,it's been used in a lotus v6 convershion and looks great . home made inlet manifolds are a black art in making power tourqe etc? But good luck and keep up the good work. Richard

Hi Richard

I have a mondeo 2.5 in stock, and did plan to use the manifold. But the issue is that the throttle body is on the rear end of the engine, and I tried to rotate the manifold 180 degrees, but it will interfer with the valve covers. Solution can be to make a 30mm spacerplate between the lower and upper manifold parts + cut and weld a bit in the manifold. But after all that will be the same work as costructing a complete new "aston martin" style plenum (I found a second hand aston plenum for the v12, but that was 800£)

[madsvlund]

Thanks guys, a few comments

- The garage was build by me 4 years ago, and have heated floor wich is perfect for the danish winter
- The Jag engine is 1 inch more narrow than the original Essex engine as well as 2 inches shorter, so absolutely no pain making room for it. Major topic was to find room for the alternator (it interfer with the frame)
- The engine and gearbox was 600£ everything else 6000£, but don't tell my wife :-)

Br Mads

[madsvlund]

A picture of the body on the car prior to painting, just to verify clearance for the rims

[griff 200]

I thought I may be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs . I have made a few manifolds and find on dyno testing that there worse than oem ones , after all they spend thousands on making them but the ones that do seem to work as well or even better have the same length runners and i fit roll lip ends inside the chambers . Dave walker of emerald Ecu fame has a very good article on inlet length on his web site where he tests different lengths on a rover k race engine and changes it from a race engine with no low down torque to a tractor engine. His words. Makes a good read if nothing else. Richard

[vixen1700]

That does look great.

[Slow M]

Mads,

Looking good!

I hope you end up with a 5.1 second car, so you "have to" add the supercharger.

Best,
B.

[gmw9666]

Out of curiosity what size are those wheels.......they really suit the car

[madsvlund]

Hi

Wheels are ACT (bmw M5 anno 1985), I've bought a selection of 9,5" - 8,5" and 7,5" (last one from opel senator), and bu narrowing the rear suspension mounts by 1" do they just clear the inner fender by 1/2" and no problems on the outside. Currently mounted with 245/16 on the rear and 225/16 (8,5") front.

Camber adjuster to -1/2 deg front and rear.



Btw. after 50 hours of work with the cables do this go out....



This goes in....



And finally look like this...




.... never underestimate the power of the dark side (...of Lucas)

[griffer500]

Just one question. Will fit the Jag V6 (Ford Duratec) with the standard plenum? Or is a modification allways necessary?

[madsvlund]

Modification is needed, but perhaps the new style manifold from the x type can be an plug and play option, it will make the throttle body point toward the cabin (where there are more headroom under the bonnet), and with a 180 deg bend it could be possible.
It's this way that morgan have fittet a X type V6 to the the cars they make.

Another option with a very low and backward facing throttle, is to use the plenim from a 2.5 mondeo, that's very low and will fit under the bonnet with ease. Only problem is that the mondeo plenum is quite restrictive (thus 170hp in the mondeo and 210 in the 2.5 Jag version)