Passing SVA by other means . . . !

Passing SVA by other means . . . !

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busa_rush

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6,930 posts

258 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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Was talking to chap at my first SVA test who imported vehicles from the USA and he was talking about getting one vehicle through SVA then simply replacing the VIN plate with another one and getting it through again. He's then got a VIN plate and a MAC certificate to "attach" to another vehicle without bothering with an SVA test.

If he kept this "SVA" vehicle as a demonstrator with no distinguishing marks on it then I suppose this would work as most VIN plates are only glued or riveted in place.

Has anybody else known kit cars to get through like this ? Must be pretty easy to get one locost dressed up then use it several times, maybe changing the exhaust and a few odd bits each time ?

Not that I'm condoning this, it's obviously not good for the kit car community, just wondering if this is wide spread ?

Liszt

4,330 posts

277 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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As part of SVA they have to check the chassis number is stamped on to the chassis itself.

Also, while the car may be the same are any 2 actual sva tests the same?

KITT

5,342 posts

248 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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Liszt said:
As part of SVA they have to check the chassis number is stamped on to the chassis itself.

Also, while the car may be the same are any 2 actual sva tests the same?


Very true. I know a number of Tiger owners caught out by not haveing the chassis number stamped on the chassis. And as you say no 2 SVA tests (or testers) are the same thus making it a bit hit and miss even with a throughly prepared car!

Avocet

800 posts

262 months

Thursday 6th May 2004
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Now there's an idea! Maybe the VOSA "Standards Monitoring Inspectors" should invest in a kit car and present the same car (with various different VINS) at different stations (chosen randomly) to try and maintain consistency between the stations!

Purple AK

343 posts

250 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Avocet said:
Now there's an idea! Maybe the VOSA "Standards Monitoring Inspectors" should invest in a kit car and present the same car (with various different VINS) at different stations (chosen randomly) to try and maintain consistency between the stations!


They do it to MOT stations, But I suppose they cant Sh*t on there own doorstep!!!!!!!!!

>> Edited by Purple AK on Friday 7th May 00:11

ferg

15,242 posts

264 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Liszt said:
As part of SVA they have to check the chassis number is stamped on to the chassis itself.


My VIN plate is rivetted and could be removed quite easily...and it passed SVA.

Liszt

4,330 posts

277 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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You need a chassis plate and a stamp on the chassis

Aprisa

1,829 posts

265 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Liszt said:
You need a chassis plate and a stamp on the chassis


Is this true? mine just has a plate welded to the chassis, no other VIN is present,passed yesterday.
Nick

mattstead

369 posts

253 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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I know of a MANUFACTURER who keep a pre cat engine on the shelf and SVA their cars with it! Strangly enough, all the buyers then decide to have an engine swap.

Then again, this is the same company whos demonstrator was a "re bodied Dutton" just to avoid SVA!

FlossyThePig

4,102 posts

250 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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busa_rush said:
Was talking to chap at my first SVA test who imported vehicles from the USA and he was talking about getting one vehicle through SVA then simply replacing the VIN plate with another one and getting it through again. He's then got a VIN plate and a MAC certificate to "attach" to another vehicle without bothering with an SVA test.


Does he supply dodgy MOT certificates as well?

I know I may be an old fart but if you make a change to your car after SVA it may invalidate your insurance. All you need is an accident investigator to be extra vigilant and they may refuse to payout. Is It worth it?

If you think SVA is a pain investigate the testing you have to go through if you build a plane. You have to register before you even start and then have ongoing tests before completion.

Hugh

ferg

15,242 posts

264 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Liszt said:
You need a chassis plate and a stamp on the chassis


Er.....mine has a rivetted plate and NO other markings.

And it passed SVA..

(Am I repeating myself?)

chrisx666

808 posts

268 months

Friday 7th May 2004
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Mine also passed with only a plate attached. No stampings anywhere else.

The guy said it would have failed had the plate been attached with screws or glue though - they get a lot like that apparently.

tigerk

4,387 posts

263 months

Monday 10th May 2004
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Mine passed SVA with a plate rivetted on, but no number stamped into the chassis. When the registration guy came out to check it over for registration he advised me that the SVA guys should have told me about the requirement to have it stamped into chassis as well. He said that this happened quite frequently, but I could get it done and then get a form signed by an MOT station to verify it had been done. Of course he didn;t have a copy of the form with him. Altogether it took me 7 weeks to get from sva pass to registration . (The most frustrating seven weeks of the whole build!)

Why the registration formalities can't be completed at SVA test is quite beyond me. A bit of job preservation going on there I think

ferg

15,242 posts

264 months

Monday 10th May 2004
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tigerk said:
He advised me that the SVA guys should have told me about the requirement to have it stamped into chassis as well.


I'd be impressed if they could stamp my chassis, engrave perhaps...it's fibreglass.

aprisa

1,829 posts

265 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Just had my DVLA inspection, the guy was quite adamant that the number had to be welded on to the chassis or stamped directly. luckily even my welding was OK!

Nick