Distinct lack of Progress

Distinct lack of Progress

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PeetBee

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1,036 posts

262 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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After seeing how much Alan (meerkat) has managed to achieve in 2.5 years, it really shows you how badly I've done in a year.

He's designed and built a complete car and I've managed to start with a complete car and reduce it to a pile of bits!

For some pics of my Dutton Phaeton, try www.psba.freeserve.co.uk
I know I promised SpartanAndy some pics a while ago so hopefully this will cheer him up when he sees the current state, (last two pics).

If anyone wants to offer advice on extra bracing they think the chassis might need, please let me know as any advice is appreciated. I will put a diagonal in the centre side section though, as I reckon that will help (well a little).

The plan is to replace the nice cart springs on the back with a five link setup based on the 'how to build a sportscar for £250' book and hopefully make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

I'll try and update the website with progress (dependant upon interest, let me know) although that may depend on how much time I spend in the garage.

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Monday 15th December 2003
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Peetbee

Have you and Spartan_Andy got a little competition going on between you?

Is there a 'silk purse from a sow's ear' award at the end of this? Is the prize to wear a jumper like Den at the first show you go to when it's finished?

I wonder if anyone else has a car that they could enter too.

Good luck with the project. Give me a few months (or a year), I might even come round in the Marlin to see how you are getting on.

Bl**** **l, I might, you're not as far away as I thought.

peetbee

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1,036 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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I'll stop work on my car if I have to wear a jumper like Den's, or is that the 'prize' for being the last to complete it?!

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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peetbee said:
I'll stop work on my car if I have to wear a jumper like Den's, or is that the 'prize' for being the last to complete it?!


Now there's a thought.

What about, the last person to finish has to wear a jumper like Den to every show (and shopping trip with wife) until their car is complete.

Obviously if you don't do a good job, you forefeit and have to wear your new jumper until the other car is finished.

I wonder how Andy feels about this?
I wonder if Den will donate a jumper as booby prize?



I wonder if anyone will still be speaking to me now?

tigerk

4,387 posts

263 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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I can report that peetbee must have cleared the garage up before taking those pictures. Last week when I went round the chassis wasn't even visible.

He's even taken to bribing me with offers of plates of beef casserole if I go round his house to help!!
so I'll be round in the (landrover) tomorrow night Pete.

and I seem to recall an offer of free for the whole of 2004...or was I imagining that bit?



>> Edited by tigerk on Wednesday 17th December 13:31

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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Pete

How you finishing the chassis?

peetbee

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1,036 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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tigerk said:
I can report that peetbee must have cleared the garage up before taking those pictures. Last week when I went round the chassis wasn't even visible.
That took me the complete weekend, I'm convinced I took some stuff to the tip that I'll need later!

tigerk said:
He's even taken to bribing me with offers of plates of beef casserole if I go round his house to help!!
so I'll be round in the (landrover) tomorrow night Pete.

and I seem to recall an offer of free for the whole of 2004...or was I imagining that bit?


I don't recollect mentioning drink, although I do owe you a pint
Anyway, you helped me take it apart so I think it's fair you help me put it back together again

TigerK is the one wearing the fetching goggles in the pics on my website

peetbee

Original Poster:

1,036 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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Ex-Biker said:
Pete
How you finishing the chassis?


Blimey I hadn't thought that far ahead!
I'm using trusty old red oxide paint to stop it rusting immediately and then I'll finish it off with a nice layer of red coach paint. The wishbones look pretty good in it and it doesn't seem to go hard like hammerite.

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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I asked 'cause I saw this:

www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=8217

Didn't know if you know if it's any good?

daxtojeiro

742 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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Ex Biker,
that stuff is brilliant. I put it on my dax chassis 4 years ago, after treating it with their rust preventer first. It forms a skin over everything it touches. A word of advise though, only pour out what your going to use and reseal the tin, as it goes off quickly and is totally unusable when it does. Highly recommend the stuff! Used 2 tins to do my chassis and all the running gear. None of it has deteriorated at all and the surface wipes clean.
Phil

peetbee

Original Poster:

1,036 posts

262 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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But they don't do it in red
I've already painted up some bits, do I want to redo them?

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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peetbee said:
But they don't do it in red
I've already painted up some bits, do I want to redo them?


If you redo them you can paint over it in whatever colour you want.

ozzie dave

567 posts

255 months

Wednesday 17th December 2003
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couple of sugestions, yes the live axle - DO IT, it changes the handling greatly if my memory serves me correctly chavette arms could be used with the escort axle . otherwise I have an easy setup that works on a locost that would work well for you . secondly cut the top off the drivers footwell and put a removable plate in , it makes working on the pedals so much easier and dont forget to reinforce the pedal baulkhead it changes the feel of the pedals when it doesn't flex anymore . (working from memory 20 years ago)

peetbee

Original Poster:

1,036 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Thanks Ozzie Dave, The thing that would stop me cutting the top off the pedal box is that it's part of the fibreglass bodyshell and I wouldn't want to weaken it. I thought of putting a steel plate on the front of the pedal box and a brace going towards the chassis (provided there's enough space) to add more strength.

The axle will be done in a very similar way to the locost, I've even got the trailing arms ready, just need to sort out the brackets (tonight's job)

Ex-Biker: I'm tempted to do the chassis in this paint, but do I go for black or silver?! I'll leave the other bits (wishbones & uprights) in red as they'll be on display afterwards, I'm going to respray the bodywork in the same red.

>> Edited by peetbee on Thursday 18th December 09:25

spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Hey that's not fair, outside assistance, If this is going to be a comp NOT to wear one of dens jumpers thensurely it's got to be done from a level playing field :tongueincheek mode off:

PeetBee

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1,036 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th December 2003
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Sorry Andy, but I'd never finish it if I didn't get some help, especially as I can't weld (yet) so 5 linking the rear would be challenging to say the least!

I've decided that the silver paint from Frosts sounds good. Has anyone else apart from daxtojeiro used it?

Tonight was spent designing and sorting the measurements for the axle brackets, I've now got to find some 3mm steel plate.

Ex-Biker

1,315 posts

254 months

Friday 19th December 2003
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PeetBee said:
Tonight was spent designing and sorting the measurements for the axle brackets, I've now got to find some 3mm steel plate.


Pete

Depending how much steel plate you want, try visiting a local engineering firm. Small bits are easily scroungeable (as most is scrap) and often they will sell you larger stuff a fair bit cheaper than you can get.

I have been offered a sheet of 8'x4' aluminium for £16.