Which Kit car?

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Bonus

Original Poster:

3 posts

252 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Hi,

Right, I'm going to have a spare Engine soon, and wanted to do something with it, so I thinking about building a kit car to put it in!

It will be a 1.4 16v Corsa SRi engine. Are there any kits out there that the engine would fit in? What sort of price are we talking? Any pictures would be a great help, im very new to the Kit car world!

Many thanks

Chris.

liszt

4,330 posts

277 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Hmm not sure on exact models.

The normal answer given is it is better to choose the model before the engine. Sell what ever it is you have then use that to finance the project.

Do you prefer a Lotus 7 style motor, Cobra, Elise sytle coupe or a GT car/Ultima?

Common engines used are Ford (pinto[sierra], Zetec[mondeo], Duratec[mondeo], Cosworth, Cross flow(also Known as xFlow) plus others), Rover (v8, k series) Chevy V8, Ford V8's and some Vauxhall DOHC (not sure what)

Power starts at around 100 bhp rising to 500+ so kit choice varies.

A bigger factor is what budget do you have? It is invariably never enoough but that is part of the fun.

Locost type (lotus 7 style) start at about 3-5 grand (at a pinch) The range of styles broadens out between 7 and 12 thousand and serious kit can cost between 15 and 60 grand(yes really!)

What will you use it for? Sunday blaster or track days or weekend tourer or everyday motor?

Welcome to the forum. Don't be put off by lack of knowledge. We all started with silly questions so don't be afraid to ask. The more you ask the more likely you are to succeed.


spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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I have to agree with liszt budget is probably the biggest factor when deciding what kit to do, but the other thing is do you want to build it all yourself or not. There are loads of part built projects going for a song comparatively because the owner ran out of time, money, dedication, or circumstances changed. Buying one of these and fitting a different engine i.e. yours, may be an option.

Welcome to the forum I myself am relatively new but I feel I know quite a lot of these guys. The majority of them are very friendly and will gladly give any assistance they can. Also if you don't ask questions how do you find out.

Bonus

Original Poster:

3 posts

252 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Thanks for the replys!

I know normally you choose your kit car before the donor! Reason I’ve got it this was round is that I’ve got the engine in the corsa at the moment, but will be changing it for a bigger engine. The 1.4 16v engine will then be spare. Instead of selling or scrapping it, I wondered if there would be a kit car I could build fairly cheap just to have a bit of fun in really. Probably more of a Sunday blaster to start with, though maybe a track day car later. The Engine standard is around the 100bhp mark, and there’s plenty I can do to give it a few more ponies.

Im really looking for something light and therefore quick with that motor in. I thinking along the Super 7/westfield style of kit.

My budget would probably be around the 2k mark, so not mega money. I’d like something I could build at home, as I think this would be half the fun!

Thanks again for your help so far!

liszt

4,330 posts

277 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Hmm. Tough one. That is a *tight* budget. Are you up for a bit of welding? Recommend selling the engine for a couple of hundred quid. Buy a sierra which will supply your engine, gearbox, steering, front hubs and carriers, prop shaft, diff, halfshafts, rear hubs, all of your brakes and electrics.

Then need to sort out a locost chassis, which you can build yourself. Refurbish your parts such as brakes then buy body parts and seat. Anything left use to tune your engine with.

The other alternative as mentioned would be to by a part built kit. Strip it down and rebuil it so you know it is A) put together right and B) you know how it fits together for future maintenance.

spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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you could try an MK indy, their deluxe starter kit is around the 2k mark, or robin hood sub k £995 but you would still need a donor sierra for the bits other than the engine. Having said that the cheapest way of aquiring the bits is to buy a knackered sierra but then you get the engine as well. You could sell that one or sell you're corsa engine to fund the kit and used the "free" engine out of the donor vehicle if you find the right one the engines are very tunable

PeetBee

1,036 posts

262 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Sounds like you're looking at the locost or robin hood subk market to get one on the road for £2k and to be honest, with those you are going to need a donor vehicle (probably a sierra) for the running gear and the donor will more than likely come with an engine of it's own.

There is also the issue of SVA, I don't know the age of your engine, but if it's after a certain age ()see sva post at top of forum) then you need to worry about a catalytic converter to pass, far better to use the olde worlde engine to pass sva and perhaps do a swap after, but the 2.0 Pinto in a sierra comes with approx 100bhp anyway (or of course you could buy a Dutton and stick it in!)

enjoy and welcome!

edited to say, curses I typed too slow, Andy beat me to it!

>> Edited by PeetBee on Friday 28th November 14:30

spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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peetbee snap! I thought exactly the same got there first though.

When I posted I was thinking trackday only re the MK, for road use the robin hood

Bonus

Original Poster:

3 posts

252 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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What sort of "styles" are the locost and robin? Super 7 looking? Any pictures?

Thanks again for the help

RichardD

3,608 posts

252 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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www.locustenthusiastsclub.fsnet.co.uk/cars/cars.htm

www.srcf.ucam.org/~gw235/kitcar.php

(The main Robin Hood site doesn't seem to work at the moment).

Edited to add I think I think I found the wrong "robin hood site"... oops..

>> Edited by RichardD on Friday 28th November 14:58

spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Locost is a builtit from the ground up 7 style
for robinhood try this linkwww.robinhoodsportscars.co.uk/

anonymous-user

61 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Take a look at this (optimistically titled) book.
www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1859606369/ref=sr_aps_books_1_2/202-2066345-3403862

Available in most Halfords in the Haynes rack it seems.

spartan_andy

645 posts

254 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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this is book that spawned the locost phenomenon However the cost is more like £500 and as I mentioned earlier it is a build it from the ground up so literally welding your own chassis laying up your own fibreglass etc Theres lots of these for sale where people have lost the will to carry on

grahambell

2,718 posts

282 months

Friday 28th November 2003
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Hi Bonus,

If you're looking for a kit that's designed to take the Corsa engine, I don't think there are any.

Regarding fitting your engine in a 'Seven' type car, the problem is that they use a longitudinal front mounted engine and rear wheel drive, whereas you've got a transverse front driver.

Although there are bellhousings to mate 16v Vauxhall engines to Ford gearboxes for inline installations, don't know if they'd fit your engine.

If not, then using it would be more hassle than it's worth. Probably better selling it and putting the money to something else.