Anyone looking for Ferrari bits?

[Ex-Biker]

Just found this on www.silverlakeautoparts.co.uk/breakers

Vehicle: Ferrari 355 Berlinetta
Year: 1998
Description:R reg 1998, 22000 miles, Manual transmission, Petrol, Airbags Not Deployed, can be viewed, Keys Available, Drives - engine runs and moves, Service History, Alloy wheels, Phase 4 type 5.2 engine without switchable abs.

Not a pretty sight!

[liszt]

Yep but as it is a breaker you need an EPA licence to buy it and a WCL to transport it.

Not for you average punter

[Ex-Biker]

The link might not work, so try:
www.silverlakeautoparts.co.uk

Then click on breakers. The car is on pg2.

Liszt, I don't think anyone would want that much of the car. Maybe the rear lights and interior?

Wonder if any of the Ultima boys fancy the engine?

[Liszt]

I work for a salvage company so try and provide helpful little tit bits. The reality is that these are for sale as a whole vehicle and for breakers as a complete collection of parts as they are technically no longer a vehicle, There are basically 4 categories of sales. Salvage which can be sold to man in the street which is cat C and D write offs; Breakers which are sold to dismantlers who have to have a registered EPA licence which is a pain to get involving council visits, regular site inspections etc. This is your cat b write off; scap by weight whcih is is you cat A write off which is a burnout or a gutted shell. These get crushed then sold to a metal dealer by the trailer load. The last is by part. For the larger companies this is more of a courtesy to customers rather than a direct sales chanel as it is a real pain in the bum to run etc. An average punter is nott going to pick up a wrecked exotic as these are picked up by the specialist dismantlers who will concentrate on say Ferraris, and will get more from the parts than from repairing the vehicle.

[Ex-Biker]

I just though some people would find the picture amusing.

[eliot]

Have a look at the discovery on the "breakers" page.
Its completely totalled, but yet described as "air bags not deployed!"

[Liszt]

Oops. As I work for a similar company (but better of course ) I keep having to answer these questions, so I apologise for the lecture.

If you follow the website in my profile and have a look at the star buys, you can see a nicely wrecked M5, R340 and a masserratti

[Ex-Biker]

Liszt said:

Oops. As I work for a similar company (but better of course ) I keep having to answer these questions, so I apologise for the lecture. If you follow the website in my profile and have a look at the star buys, you can see a nicely wrecked M5, R340 and a masserratti

You work for Universal?

Do you want a new best friend?

Would you let your new best friend know if there is a Rover 25/200 1.6 or (preferably)1.8ltr vehicle available to buy incredibly cheap?

Just in case you don't know (I don't think I've told the whole world yet), I've just ordered a Marlin 5Exi and an looking for a donor.

[Incorrigible]

Lizt,

I've bought a few cat B cars (only for parts obviously) and haven't got a licence (obviously they don't come with a V5) how have the salvage company got away with it ??

[Liszt]

Ex biker, I'll keep you posted on what we have in the way of rovers.

To dismantle a car you need to depollute it first which is where the epa waste licence comes in. The other big part is to combat fraud, ie stop peeps putting cat b's back on the road, so the checks on "breakers" is more in depth. Being a large operation we don't have the resources to check everyone is a bonafida breaker so let the councils do the leg work. Breaker rights at Universal only extend to the limits of the EPA licence so if your licence expires then so does your membership.

Also our clients, the big insurance companies demand a hassle free sale, so they don't have to handle the crap digging out the evidence to show it was sold.

Did you buy a cat b from a salvage auction or a dismantler?

[liszt]

Ex-Biker said:

Would you let your new best friend know if there is a Rover 25/200 1.6 or (preferably)1.8ltr vehicle available to buy incredibly cheap?

Having done a quick search these are the sorts of prices we have been doing in the last 5 months on Rovers.
220 SLI are going for less than £400
216 GTI are going for around £300
216 GSI are going for around £200
216 coupes and cabrios are going for £750+

These are dealer part ex rubbish and not salvage. most actually have MOT

You could drive these away from the auction on the day.

If you went down the salvage route, you can pick up a motor for about 50 - 100 quid, but it all depends on the area damaged. Delivery is available at a cost based on milage usually within 7 days.

You'll need to have registered to enter the auction but all that involves is a driving licence and a few household bills.

Having placed an order for a Dax Rush at the recent openday I myself am scouring the catalogues for sierras. Now these really are cheap!

Just bing the search critera "Rover" into the website and keep an eye on what is coming up

>> Edited by liszt on Tuesday 7th October 13:05

[Ex-Biker]

Liszt

How much do you think something like this will cost me?

http://autos.blue-sock.com/clients/9/item.php?count=30&makemodel=&trimlevel=&fueltype=&pics=pics&orderby=makemodel&value=16515

[liszt]

We have been selling 98 Rover 216 Si as salvage for about £600. Seem to be popular and it is still fairly new so the interior will be worth saving which pushes price up

What are the requirements for the donor?

[Marki]

Ex-Biker said:

I just though some people would find the picture amusing.

yeah im sure it was amusing for the poor bastad who had to be cut out of it , whats the word im looking for ,oh yeah Ghoul

[Incorrigible]

Liszt said:

Did you buy a cat b from a salvage auction or a dismantler?

From a dismantler, probably explains it, I though you were a dismantler saying you wouldn't sell stuff

Thanks

Ben

[Ex-Biker]

Basically a new style Rover 200/25. Best is a 216 as this is the model that the initial car is based. Can use other engines inc turbo but 'T' series engines need chassis modification. clocks would have to come from the car (or car with same engine) due to gearing.

Able to use engines & gearbox from other Rovers, but need to match 25/200 driveshafts and hubs.

I need a car with rear drums or need spindles (?) off such a model (they fit on the front).

After speaking to Mark @ Marlin the best option seems to be getting a 25/200 1.6 or 1.8 as all the donor parts will be available from the one car. The 1.8 might need slight modification (to chassis) due to it using a different gearbox to the others. I guess i'm just lazy?

I don't want ABS either as this will need a lot of setting up due to the massive weight change from the original car.

You probably didn't want to know all of this.

Thanks for the info on prices. One final Q: How much can I expect to pay for delivery? Is it done by milage radius?

[liszt]

NATIONAL DELIVERY CHARGES
MILEAGE PRICE PER CAR
0 - 20 MILES £15 per car or £75 per load
21 - 50 MILES £20 per car or £100 per load
51 - 90 MILES £25 per car or £125 per load
ANY DELIVERY OVER 90 MILES WILL BE CHARGED AS FOLLOWS
1 car £0.42 per mile
2 cars £0.78 per mile
3 cars £1.05 per mile
4 cars £1.28 per mile
5 cars £1.33 per mile
6 cars £1.40 per mile

[liszt]

Ex-Biker said:

Basically a new style Rover 200/25. Best is a 216 as this is the model that the initial car is based.

that is a pretty new motor so you are looking at nearly a grand for a pukka sale and 500 quid plus at auction

[Ex-Biker]

They will sell me the Rover I showed before for £700 or I can take my chances at the auction.

http://autos.blue-sock.com/clients/9/item.php?count=30&makemodel=&trimlevel=&fueltype=&pics=pics&orderby=makemodel&value=16515

[liszt]

It all comes down how much you are prepared to pay for your donor. £700 seems reasonable for the motor. You *could* get it cheaper at auction but then you might not. If the vehicle fits your requirements then it is up to you to decide perhaps pay a little over the odds and guarantee the motor or get lucky and get it for less. It is very heavily dependant on the crowd on the day.