Sylva Mojo2

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annodomini2

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6,899 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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Hi guys and gals,

I'm Andy and this is my very first post, I thought i'd honour the people in the kit car section as i can't seem to find a newbie introductions section.

Anyhow, anyone built a Sylva Mojo 2?

Any +ve or -ve points about the car generally?

Mark B

1,636 posts

270 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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Hi Andy,

Never built a Mojo or a Mojo 2 but I have built a Striker and a Stylus. Jeremy Philips of Sylva Autokits is an excellent engineer and seems to produce excellent kits. This should be an excellent kit, I can strongly recommend it. I personally prefer the Stylus and Striker as it is front engine rear drive, but I have heard the Mojo and therefore Mojo 2 handle very well.

Cheers,
Mark
Big Sylva Fan!

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

267 months

Friday 23rd May 2003
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Hi andy. Well I'm, Ahem, biased but you can't get much better than a Sylva!.

The Mojo is an excellent little car and the Mojo2 will be better due to it's improved weight distribution.

Jeremy is one of the "good" guys of the kit car industry always available if you want advice.

What donkey are you going to fit?? (go on Honda vtec)

Cheers MoJo.

annodomini2

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6,899 posts

256 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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I'm trying to get hold of a Honda K20a or K20b (Civic type-r, S2000), preferbly K20a as can come with the transverse gb.

And yes I am a lunatic!!! ;-)

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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Biggest pain in the arse is getting the back to front gear mechanism right with "normal" FWD installations.MoJo.

annodomini2

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6,899 posts

256 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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Some can be awkward, but it's not impossible. I obviously haven't seen where it's positioned on the gb, but as the selector in a civic type-r is quite high up on the dashboard, the selector shouldn't be too bad to get at.

JohnL

1,763 posts

270 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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I gather these can be built with Mk1 MR2 engine & gearbox too - avoids "back to front gearbox" etc.

Anyone know if other bits can come from the MR2 as well? I've got an old one that's mechanically Ok and bodywork dead, and the idea of turning it into an interesting kit car appeals. Otherwise it's of spares for my "new" one.

meerkat

164 posts

272 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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Hi John, I used MR2 bits in my car.

www.desicodesign.com/meerkat/

HTH,

Alan B

annodomini2

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6,899 posts

256 months

Thursday 29th May 2003
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You'll probably need the drive shafts and the gear selector, uprights and stuff i'd doubt it as it's designed for ford, unless you'd want to play with it.

heater and some interior parts might fit, you never know might be able to arrange pop-up headlights if you wanted!

mark b

1,636 posts

270 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Just checked you're profile which led me back to this thread, if you are still considering this choice you may want to view the pictures from a recent 750mc day when a Mojo had a head on crash. Makes nasty viewing....

I am not trying to bring attention to this as I think Jeremy at Sylva is a fantastic engineer, but these pictures seem to show a big flaw in the mojo design. I will try to find a link......

annodomini2

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6,899 posts

256 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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yeah, if you can post them, or a link

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

267 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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mark b said:
Just checked you're profile which led me back to this thread, if you are still considering this choice you may want to view the pictures from a recent 750mc day when a Mojo had a head on crash. Makes nasty viewing....

I am not trying to bring attention to this as I think Jeremy at Sylva is a fantastic engineer, but these pictures seem to show a big flaw in the mojo design. I will try to find a link......


What one is that, libel or slander?

You should have checked your facts and perhaps spoken to jeremy yourself.

mattstead

369 posts

251 months

Saturday 11th October 2003
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Excuse me whilst I sit on the fence, but whats wrong with showing a photo of a crashed mojo, we all see crash reports from none kit car companies? I'll agree that Jeremy is an excellent engineer, and built a fantastic car with the striker (in all it's stylus, fury and phoenix guises), but, and I'm not saying it is the case (fence sitting again) but everyone has an off day...the nissan bluebird was built by the same people as the skyline
The mojo and strikers are VERY different cars and need to be judged on their own merits.
The mojo is suprisingly strong considering that it hasn't got an engine up front to absorb an impact, so as a result has some fairly complex triangulation (jeremys skills coming into play) in the front of the chassis to make it stiff...the centre section of the car, the passenger cell is suprisingly unbraced, infact far less than your average locost.
I'd personally be interested to see the photos, as I can only imagine where it has bent...I would also like to know how the accident happened, as would the driver, (or so I am lead to believe).

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

267 months

Sunday 12th October 2003
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Hi there.


Now Jeremy will be the first to say that some lessons have been learnt.
I have talked to J as a Mojo owner and am satisfied with the solutions he has
proposed.
anyway will list all the points as i see them

Good

The driver walked away from a very big impact. Estimated by those there 60/80
mph. Accident happend at cadwell 2nd bend. Mojo was on outside of track when it
is believed to have hit oil from previous event. being on outside of track it
was straight off and with minimal run off into barriers. ouch basically.
All the suspension components remained attached. the front mounted fuel tank
intergrity was retained. the front chassis performed as designed ie absorbed
much of the thump.

BAD

the floorpan integrity was comprimised. the factory have instigated a fix that
is in place as we speak (I'll be doing it over winter no big fix as such just
reduce radius of rivit effect ie add more rivits to current ones)

NO MORE LIGHTWEIGHT CHASSIS the car had 16 guage chassis factory no longer offer
this option back to 18g.

introduction of (on "racing" Mojo's) further diagonal strenthing from roll bar
diagonally down to footwell.

thats about it. J says as for as he's concerned car has passed it's 60/80 mph
crash test and i believe him.
Oh the mk1 mojo has higher side triangulation thus reducing the urge to "fold"
in the first place.

There is a lot of s**t talked about kit cars. If you want tin top saftey
standards stick to tin tops. If you want real driving experiences.....well you know
what I mean

cheers

Mojo.

Ferg

15,242 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th October 2003
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While on the subject of kitcar chassis'....
The link below shows a car the same as mine after a collision at speed (I would rather not divulge how fast) and though I feel gutted for the owner (who walked away from it with his friend) I am pleased that the car has been crash tested like this.
www.geocities.com/ferg_ranson/writeoff
This link is available for a limited time.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

260 months

Sunday 12th October 2003
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Ferg said:
While on the subject of kitcar chassis'....
The link below shows a car the same as mine after a collision at speed (I would rather not divulge how fast) and though I feel gutted for the owner (who walked away from it with his friend) I am pleased that the car has been crash tested like this.
www.geocities.com/ferg_ranson/writeoff
This link is available for a limited time.


The strength of the passenener cell must be pretty amazing given the damage to the rest of the car.

I think you should try a bit of compression on that pic, it's only 640x480 but weighs in at over 1/2 megabyte!

Ferg

15,242 posts

262 months

Sunday 12th October 2003
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Sorry, I couldn't be bothered

spartan_andy

645 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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what sort of car is it I can't tell

Ferg

15,242 posts

262 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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It's a GTM Libra.

spartan_andy

645 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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perhaps he ought to have been driving a