suggestions for a kit

suggestions for a kit

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ceebmoj

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1,898 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Hi

I am looking for suggestions for a kit car to build the following things should be considered.

1. I have helped my father build a number of kits before (before I when to uni ) and yes he does have suggestions but stuff I am to keen on
2. I have just started my first job so the budget is limited
3. I would like to build something along the lines of a track day car single or 2 seats and not 7 like
4. Long ago I saw some 2 seater kits where the passenger sits behind the driver I thort this was cool

Thanks for any suggestions if you have any other ideas pleas suggest them

Graham.J

5,420 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Why do you not want to build a 7 style car just out of interest, IMO these are probably the best for track use and can be made on a budget.

ceebmoj

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Hi

Only reason for not wanting to build a 7 stile thing is basically I have helped to build 2 all ready and fancied doing something different.

Of the 2 I helped build the first I only really helped (got in the way) did the odd job and the second I practically built.

But what sort of budget can one be built on with out having to weld your own chaise

Graham.J

5,420 posts

264 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Without having to weld your own chassis, I'd check out www.mkengineering.co.uk

apache

39,731 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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oh, sorry, I thought this was suggestions for a kilt

Alex

9,975 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Also check out Stuart Taylor motorsport:

www.stuart-taylor.co.uk/

They sell excellent Locost chassis and are now also sole agents for the Phoenix.

Alex

9,975 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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P.S. Minimum £6k to build a decent kit IMO.

ultimapaul

3,937 posts

269 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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Tiger Avon?

chrisx666

808 posts

266 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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GTM Libra / Spyder?. Not an ultra cheap option though.

www.GTMCARS.CO.UK
www.GTMCHRIS.PWP.BLUEYONDER.CO.UK

sparks

1,217 posts

284 months

Tuesday 14th January 2003
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How about this?


more at
www.brooke-kensington.co.uk
and also details.

Or the sylva/fischer fury (a seven with a body)

Sparks

Edited to add: I agree with the GTM, but it is expensive ( and based not to far from me )


>> Edited by sparks on Tuesday 14th January 19:07

ceebmoj

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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Some relay good suggestions thanks keep them coming if there are any more though. I paticuly like the brooke ME190 and the MK engineering GT1. So if any one can think of a similar type kits I would relay apleasheat it.

smeagol

1,947 posts

289 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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Limiting your budget (what is it by the way) makes those types of cars harder to suggest on the Mk1 type the competition is westfield Xtr2 and the CorumLM. Both of these will be more expensive to build than £6k but so will the brooke and Mk1 (to do them properly). Don't forget that manufacturers often underestimate the cost of the build in their marketing blerb. I can't find a reference to a price for a brooke at all on their website.

grahambell

2,718 posts

280 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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Brooke used to give a figure of about £17,500 for a DIY build

However, that was using all new parts. Using salvage parts would obviously make it cheaper but there's no way it's ever going to be a low budget job.

Lowest cost options (around 5-7k mark) for full bodied road/track car are Fisher Fury Spyder, Sylva Phoenix and SSC Stylus, all of which share a common origin, and the Ginetta G20.

ceebmoj

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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Hi I under stand that the manufactures prices are underestimated but as a price comparison I have been looking at the price to buy a ready built car from the company and compering the difference between the price they quote for a built car and the kit.

As for a budget basically I don’t know. I know this is the wrong way to go about it but I have just started looking in to the price of kits to see if I can afford one. Then I will work out a more exact budget before I buy the kit I guess I can afford some where in the rejoin of 5 to 6 grand.

Basically the budget is the area I feel least at eases with as all thou I have helped build a kit on numerous occasion ranging in help from the main guy to just doing ods and ends. It has never been my money or my kit so I do not real know about the price involved.

ceebmoj

Original Poster:

1,898 posts

266 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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Hi

I don’t see it costing as much as 17,500 that but maybe that is the voice of inexperience talking however as they will sell a finished build starting at 12,925 I would hope to be abbel to build the final item for less than that. If however after looking in to the details more I fined that I cant I guess I will have to look at some thing much cheaper.

It was the westfield Xtr2 that first sparked my interest in this type of car.

Mark B

1,636 posts

270 months

Wednesday 15th January 2003
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IMHO - Buy a fully built and registered car. Choose the one you want and then find a rough one. Strip and rebuild it. Cheapest and most enjoyable way to build a car and not get stressed about the SVA test!

loserkid

1,676 posts

269 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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How easy would it be for a complete novice (quite a bright one though) to build something like the MK GT1 or an SSC Stylus?

I've just been reading through this thread and theres some excellent cars available and it just struck me that this could be a fun thing to do.

I could probably budget about £7K over year 1 towards it (although I've given up my 20 a day habit so hopefully a few more quid there!)

grahambell

2,718 posts

280 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Hi Loserkid,

Can't comment on from personal experience with either of these, but certainly the Stylus should be a pretty straightforward and economical build, with simple trim and no painting to worry about. For easiest cheapest build go for for X-flow or Pinto power with carb/carbs and a live axle.

By the way, congratulations on realising that there are better things to do with your money than killing yourself to make the tobacco barons even richer. Fg stupid habit.

daydreamer

1,409 posts

262 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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The Ginetta G20? Less than £11k as a CKD - all new bits. I'm sure that you could put something together for significantly less if you're prepared to do a bit of salvage. It's not as though there's a shortage of ford bits after all .
(Left hand car)

smeagol

1,947 posts

289 months

Thursday 23rd January 2003
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Hi loserkid, best advice I can give is have plenty of patience. Building a car is superb fun and the reward of owning a car you built is something else but it does take time to do it right.

You need a garage (fairly obvious) and a good set of tools. I highly recommend a good set of sockets and a torque wrench is essential.

Kit car build manuals have improved a great deal since building mine and if I can do it ANYONE can. Provided they have common sense and basic mechanical knowledge. If you can service a car, measure acurately (NB measure twice cut once) and have a good sense of humour (for when your friends come round or when you drop a b*ll*ck) you should be fine.

One extra bit of help that you've got which I never had, is a superb forum on which you can ask questions.

Good luck and keep us informed.