Part built kit car and iva

Part built kit car and iva

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Ultima29

Original Poster:

17 posts

163 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Is it still possible to buy a part built kit car from somewhere like ebay, (the usual thing 90% complete but more like a couple of years work) finish it off and take it through the IVA test?

I've read somewhere that if you've bought a part built your doomed! You can only buy a kit of parts a complete it.

Have any of you already done it and can put my mind at ease?

Frankthered

1,630 posts

187 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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I'm not sure why it would definitely not be possible to get a part built kit through IVA?

You would need to be able to prove amateur build and have receipts for the major components, so you might need a bunch of paperwork to come with the vehicle.

As for the technical detail of passing IVA, it depends on how the car has been built. There might be a lot of rework required if the car hasn't been built with IVA requirements in mind and it might not be economic to even try in extreme cases.

Cooper1999

323 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Ultima - why wouldn't you be able to buy a part built and then put it through an IVA?
I bought my part built car (way back in 2010) and put it in for the IVA late last year. It failed but we'll get there - there was no problem in me as the owner of the car putting it in for the test.
Have you tried to submit a car and been refused?

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Yes you can. Lots of people do it.

You may end up with a q plate if you can't prove age, but that really isn't any stigma in the kit world

Steve_D

13,796 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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I believe there is even a tick box on the application form saying you bought it part built.

Steve

Ultima29

Original Poster:

17 posts

163 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Thanks so much for the feedback. I spoke to someone last week who put the fear of God into me. He said the dvla would not let you iva a car part built by someone else. I have stripped it back and put some extra photos in with the ones the seller supplied. I'm just about to send the form off and was going to tick the box part built by another. This is a tiger from around 2000 that has never been finished. I'm going to get this one through and then try with the Ultima but I'm not expecting an easy ride with that. Thanks again, I'll update you with any developments.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Ultima29 said:
Thanks so much for the feedback. I spoke to someone last week who put the fear of God into me. He said the dvla would not let you iva a car part built by someone else. I have stripped it back and put some extra photos in with the ones the seller supplied. I'm just about to send the form off and was going to tick the box part built by another. This is a tiger from around 2000 that has never been finished. I'm going to get this one through and then try with the Ultima but I'm not expecting an easy ride with that. Thanks again, I'll update you with any developments.
There's always a lot of confusion between registration (wot the DVLA deals with) and IVA (wot DSVA, used to be VOSA, deals with). The DVLA has no say in whether you can IVA something, and DSVA doesn't give you a registration.
Proving amateur build is so they don't think you're doing loads as a business, and/or that it's not been done for you by someone doing loads as a business; generally a few photos of you building it seems to suffice. The horror stories about paperwork are usually around getting an age-related (ie, non-Q) plate, for which the requirements are fairly strict. If you are happy with a q-plate then it really doesn't matter.

Steve_D

13,796 posts

265 months

Sunday 16th June 2019
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RE your photos don't make the mistake of supplying detailed pictures of your build.
You are only trying to demonstrate you are an amateur builder. So, a picture of a Brembo caliper does not work.
A stepped back pic showing the car, up-and-over garage door, wheely bin, dogs, cats, small children is what you want.

Steve

Steve Dean

56 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th June 2019
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Hi Ultima29.
You are getting sound advice on here. I reinforce the input from Steve D (by the way, we are different people)
The crux of the matter is simple; if you don't have all the paperwork for the major components (i.e. they came from multiple donor vehicles) then you will get a Q registration and that can NOT be taken off the vehicle.
Here's the most important input ...... get the current IVA manual and check very, very, very thoroughly that the car is compliant with the
latest requirements.
The IVA requirements have changed a lot in the last few years. To put this in perspective, I own a GT40 that passed IVA in 2010 and it would now fail on a huge list of items. I regularly show people round my car that are doing new builds and point out all the items that would be a fail. This is not to put you off ...... you just need to do your homework very diligently.
Be prepared to get a fail on the first test and possibly the second. Some examiners will nit pick tiny things ...... like they'll want one more tie wrap on a starter cable. However, you get a list to work though and can whittle it down till you get a Pass.
Steve Dean.

Fastpedeller

3,975 posts

153 months

Monday 29th July 2019
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As above, but some of the requirements seem to have been relaxed.......... eg holes for screws on light lenses used to be a problem, but now if blunted they can pass.

Steve_D

13,796 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Fastpedeller said:
As above, but some of the requirements seem to have been relaxed.......... eg holes for screws on light lenses used to be a problem, but now if blunted they can pass.
Not last Monday it didn't.

Steve

Fastpedeller

3,975 posts

153 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Steve_D said:
Fastpedeller said:
As above, but some of the requirements seem to have been relaxed.......... eg holes for screws on light lenses used to be a problem, but now if blunted they can pass.
Not last Monday it didn't.

Steve
It is very involved..... All I can find is:-
Screw projection from surface - if 5mm or more then needs a 2.5mm radius
Light lens smaller than body, creating a projection - if less than 5mm needs to be blunted
External surface of lens contactable edge needs to be 2.5mm radius

I thought I'd seen something about screw holes, but I can't find in rolleyes
I assume if the screw is embedded in the hole less than 5mm, then the hole just needs to be blunted - but we all know what assuming means!