Selling a kit-car to Italy?
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Hi, can you guys help? I am trying to help an Italian friend buy a kit car from the UK. He says he can't progress without having a homologation certificate or official engineers report for the car.
What does he actually need? I know about the IVA and think the car in question has that stated on the V5? but think that's not the valid form he needs for Italy.
Any help appreciated.
What does he actually need? I know about the IVA and think the car in question has that stated on the V5? but think that's not the valid form he needs for Italy.
Any help appreciated.
I know nothing about the subject...... so this is just a personal anecdote. Make of it what you will.
An Italian guys comes up to me at Beaulieu couple of years ago and asks if I'd like to sell my car - a one off 'special'. I sad no but we got chatting.
I said that I doubted (in any case) whether or not he could import my car to Italy but he was adamant (?) that provided my car was legal in the UK - it was/is registered, MoT'd, taxed (nil rate due to age) and insured- that he could import it into Italy.
I suppose his reasoning being if it's legal in one EU country then it's legal in all.
Maybe he was entirely wrong and there are hoops to leap through in order to import a car to Italy but possibly the rules are age dependent?
Maybe if a car is a classic in a legal sense (ie road tax exempt - pre 1978/9) different rules apply?
Often rules are 'flexible' if one owns a car in the UK and personally imports it into another country when emigrating - a friend imported a Maserati when he emigrated to NZ - a car that would attract horrendous tax / type approval problems if imported 'normally'.
An Italian guys comes up to me at Beaulieu couple of years ago and asks if I'd like to sell my car - a one off 'special'. I sad no but we got chatting.
I said that I doubted (in any case) whether or not he could import my car to Italy but he was adamant (?) that provided my car was legal in the UK - it was/is registered, MoT'd, taxed (nil rate due to age) and insured- that he could import it into Italy.
I suppose his reasoning being if it's legal in one EU country then it's legal in all.
Maybe he was entirely wrong and there are hoops to leap through in order to import a car to Italy but possibly the rules are age dependent?
Maybe if a car is a classic in a legal sense (ie road tax exempt - pre 1978/9) different rules apply?
Often rules are 'flexible' if one owns a car in the UK and personally imports it into another country when emigrating - a friend imported a Maserati when he emigrated to NZ - a car that would attract horrendous tax / type approval problems if imported 'normally'.
"I suppose his reasoning being if it's legal in one EU country then it's legal in all. "
that´s exactly not the fact.
for several reasons...mainly due to emmissions.....UK is the sole EU country where the emmission classifications is related to the engine age, everywhere else its related to the reg-date:
e.g. "date of 1st reg 2003" --> Euro3, plus low noise levels and certain other tings.
also donor-reg´s or age related plates....outside UK unknown, hence a problem.
what you can say is: any car with a reg-date until mid 1991 may have the chance to get re-homologated ouside Uk without to much trouble.
1991 was the year where catalytic converters became mandatory, incl. fuel injections, reduced noise levels, later-on OBD diagnostic sockert etc.
that´s exactly not the fact.
for several reasons...mainly due to emmissions.....UK is the sole EU country where the emmission classifications is related to the engine age, everywhere else its related to the reg-date:
e.g. "date of 1st reg 2003" --> Euro3, plus low noise levels and certain other tings.
also donor-reg´s or age related plates....outside UK unknown, hence a problem.
what you can say is: any car with a reg-date until mid 1991 may have the chance to get re-homologated ouside Uk without to much trouble.
1991 was the year where catalytic converters became mandatory, incl. fuel injections, reduced noise levels, later-on OBD diagnostic sockert etc.
Edited by LLantrisant on Saturday 11th May 16:51
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