road tax exemption
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Equus said:
Only if they're registered as the donor car (which by now, they shouldn't be).
If they're registered as the marque and model of the kit car, they're as legitimate as historic vehicles as any other.
That's not true, I'm afraid. I wish it was.If they're registered as the marque and model of the kit car, they're as legitimate as historic vehicles as any other.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
I am of the opinion that you could get away without MOTing a properly registered kit, because thelaw is incredibly opaque and confusing.
Edited by Doofus on Friday 8th March 08:53
Doofus said:
That's not true, I'm afraid. I wish it was.
Your link relates to exemption from MOT testing, not exemption from road tax.And perhaps you should read it yourself:
your own link said:
In addition if a vehicle (including a motorcycle):
• has been issued with a registration number with a ‘Q’ prefix; or
• is a kit car assembled from components from different makes and model of vehicle; or
• is a reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA guidance; or
• is a kit conversion, where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell changing the general appearance of the vehicle;it will be considered to have been substantially changed and will not be exempt from MOT testing.
However if any of the four above types of vehicle is taxed as an “historic vehicle” and has not been modified during the previous 30 years, it can be considered as a VHI.
The key, as the first response above pointed out, is changing the tax status to 'Historic Vehicle'. It then also becomes eligible for MOT exemption, as your link clearly states.• has been issued with a registration number with a ‘Q’ prefix; or
• is a kit car assembled from components from different makes and model of vehicle; or
• is a reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA guidance; or
• is a kit conversion, where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell changing the general appearance of the vehicle;it will be considered to have been substantially changed and will not be exempt from MOT testing.
However if any of the four above types of vehicle is taxed as an “historic vehicle” and has not been modified during the previous 30 years, it can be considered as a VHI.
Equus said:
Doofus said:
That's not true, I'm afraid. I wish it was.
Your link relates to exemption from MOT testing, not exemption from road tax.And perhaps you should read it yourself:
your own link said:
In addition if a vehicle (including a motorcycle):
• has been issued with a registration number with a ‘Q’ prefix; or
• is a kit car assembled from components from different makes and model of vehicle; or
• is a reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA guidance; or
• is a kit conversion, where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell changing the general appearance of the vehicle;it will be considered to have been substantially changed and will not be exempt from MOT testing.
However if any of the four above types of vehicle is taxed as an “historic vehicle” and has not been modified during the previous 30 years, it can be considered as a VHI.
The key, as the first response above pointed out, is changing the tax status to 'Historic Vehicle'. It then also becomes eligible for MOT exemption, as your link clearly states.• has been issued with a registration number with a ‘Q’ prefix; or
• is a kit car assembled from components from different makes and model of vehicle; or
• is a reconstructed classic vehicle as defined by DVLA guidance; or
• is a kit conversion, where a kit of new parts is added to an existing vehicle, or old parts are added to a kit of a manufactured body, chassis or monocoque bodyshell changing the general appearance of the vehicle;it will be considered to have been substantially changed and will not be exempt from MOT testing.
However if any of the four above types of vehicle is taxed as an “historic vehicle” and has not been modified during the previous 30 years, it can be considered as a VHI.
I originally said:
Almost all kit cars are, by definition, "substantially modified", and will therefore never be exempt from MOT. VED exemption applies from the 1st April after the first registration date exceeds 40 years old.
I never said a car couldn't be VED exempt, I said it might not necessarily be MOT exempt.Doofus said:
If we're going to start pointing out that people haven't read things properly:
Yes indeed... if we're going to start pointing out that people haven't read things properly, you might start by considering whether 'will therefore never' is quite the same as ' might not necessarily'. I originally said:
Almost all kit cars are, by definition, "substantially modified", and will therefore never be exempt from MOT. VED exemption applies from the 1st April after the first registration date exceeds 40 years old.
I never said a car couldn't be VED exempt, I said it might not necessarily be MOT exempt.
I can see that we're into one of those typical PistonHeads situations where someone has made a statement that is complete toss, but will now argue black is white and dissemble furiously, rather than simply admit they were wrong.
Doofus said:
Gemaeden said:
Many kit cars were built from new parts and as such can be MOT exempt.
Except that it will be a long time intil they are 
Equus said:
Yes indeed... if we're going to start pointing out that people haven't read things properly, you might start by considering whether 'will therefore never' is quite the same as ' might not necessarily'.
I can see that we're into one of those typical PistonHeads situations where someone has made a statement that is complete toss, but will now argue black is white and dissemble furiously, rather than simply admit they were wrong.
Think what you like. It's not as if I care.I can see that we're into one of those typical PistonHeads situations where someone has made a statement that is complete toss, but will now argue black is white and dissemble furiously, rather than simply admit they were wrong.
A kit car will probably have two dates of registration on the V5. The date of First Registration relates to the age of the donor vehicle and when the registration year is taken if age related, and the date of First Registration in the UK is the date when it was registered as a kit car following IVA/SVA which is the one DVLA use for judging Historic Status. To qualify for Historic Status, the car must be 25 years old from the date of First Registration in the UK.
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