Sylva R1ot

[ivanos]

Has anyone managed to road legalise one of these at all? Or does anyone know how much work it would take to do so?

Cheers

[MartinDB]

I spoke to Sylva a couple of weeks ago, and they should have the Stoneleigh car SVA'd within a couple of weeks. There are a couple of people on the sylva-chat list (www.smartgroups.com/groups/sylva-chat)who are building R1ots and I've just started to speaking with them as I'm currently trying to decide between a R1ot and a Striker. It's probably worth emailing Steve Knee (www.cloudbass.com/mojo2/) as he's built a Mojo, is now building a R1ot, and is getting involved in Sylva's marketing.

Martin.

[The DJ 27]

I hope they get it through SVA without a problem. It's a cracking idea and a great looking car. If someone can confirm to me that there's room for a supercharger as well as the R1 engine I think it'll go straight to the top of my personal kit car list

[vojx]

The DJ 27 said:

It's a cracking idea and a great looking car.

I'd disagree with you with one of these points.

IMO Sylva should be having a word with our friend Italo over the design - why such a long bonnet, when the engine's at the back? Sorry, it looks like a bodge to me

[NAPiston]

vojx said:

IMO Sylva should be having a word with our friend Italo over the design - why such a long bonnet, when the engine's at the back? Sorry, it looks like a bodge to me

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but, respectfully, I think that’s nuts! I have not seen one in person but from looking at the pictures it looks remarkably low and tightly packaged to me, even compared to other mid-engined cars.

They have to leave room for: your legs, front suspension, radiator, steering mechanicals, fuel cell, some crumple space, and some chassis to hold it all together; where would you suggest that they save space?



Also, from a handling perspective it’s probably not a good idea to shorten the wheelbase much more in relation to its width? Make it too square and unstable?

I would guess that the overall small proportions of the car are making the front look larger to you and that it would be clear how compact it is in person.

Cheers!

[ivanos]

Have any of you been down to the Sylva workshop? It isnt very far from me so i was thinking about popping up there and having a chat about it! I think a R1ot is the way forward, think of the power!!!!

[MR2Mike]

NAPiston said:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but, respectfully, I think that’s nuts!

Agreed, the R1ot and the Mojo are both great looking cars IMO. You would hardly want your feet protruding beyond the front wheels go-kart style would you?

[slim_boy_fat]

NAPiston said:

vojx said: IMO Sylva should be having a word with our friend Italo over the design - why such a long bonnet, when the engine's at the back? Sorry, it looks like a bodge to me Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but, respectfully, I think that’s nuts! I have not seen one in person but from looking at the pictures it looks remarkably low and tightly packaged to me, even compared to other mid-engined cars. They have to leave room for: your legs, front suspension, radiator, steering mechanicals, fuel cell, some crumple space, and some chassis to hold it all together; where would you suggest that they save space? Also, from a handling perspective it’s probably not a good idea to shorten the wheelbase much more in relation to its width? Make it too square and unstable? I would guess that the overall small proportions of the car are making the front look larger to you and that it would be clear how compact it is in person. Cheers!

Must dmit i quite like the look of it, but what are those seats all about? Whats the cornering like 0.00001g????

[fuoriserie]

NAPistonn said:
They have to leave room for: your legs, front suspension, radiator, steering mechanicals, fuel cell, some crumple space, and some chassis to hold it all together; where would you suggest that they save space?

I like the Mojo and R1ot a lot, and had a chance at Stoneleigh to sit in both of them. It is a tight fit but they felt pretty confortable.

They could both lend themselves to evolutionary designs and new shapes, if you wanted to do so.

I believe it does have a long bonnet, but that could be changed if you placed the front radioter to the back, or maybe two smaller radioters placed by the side in mid-engine fashion.

You wouldn't have to run cooling pipes to the front of the car and keep most of the weight in the middle.

This would shorten the bonnet and reproportion the car and make it more pleasing in its design, and for crumple zones, its better to be hit by a car without a front mounted radioter.......

I would stil buy a Mojo as is, but it's a great little car to play with and you could great a lot of different shapes using it's chassis, as I have done recently..........

Cheers
Italo

[vojx]

NAPiston said:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but, respectfully, I think that’s nuts! I have not seen one in person but from looking at the pictures it looks remarkably low and tightly packaged to me, even compared to other mid-engined cars. They have to leave room for: your legs, front suspension, radiator, steering mechanicals, fuel cell, some crumple space, and some chassis to hold it all together; where would you suggest that they save space? Also, from a handling perspective it’s probably not a good idea to shorten the wheelbase much more in relation to its width? Make it too square and unstable? I would guess that the overall small proportions of the car are making the front look larger to you and that it would be clear how compact it is in person. Cheers!

I looked on the website, the side elevation didnt look 'balanced' for a mid-engined car, more a rear-engined.

While to those who love 7s the r1ot is just down their street, but i was just saying that with a fresh design, the car could appeal aesthetically to a wider range of enthusiasts.

I would however wish Sylva success with the car, as it could push the 7 into a brighter future (i own a stratos replica, hence short-wheelbase, mid-engined oversteering cars are to my liking).

[oharesrecov]

Does anyone know where I’d get a new frame as the one I have hit a tree

[Equus]

oharesrecov said:

Does anyone know where I’d get a new frame as the one I have hit a tree

Last I heard, the project was with Xmoor Motorsport. Don't know if they're still in business, though?

https://www.riotcars.co.uk/
https://www.xmoorcars.co.uk/

[anonymous-user]

If you can use yours as a pattern , any one who can do a locost can build or repair one, my Phoenix chassis had been repaired several times following accidents at the track, also had several modiifications done over the years
There aren't any exotic techniques or material.

[Equus]

Berw said:

If you can use yours as a pattern , any one who can do a locost can build or repair one, my Phoenix chassis had been repaired several times following accidents at the track, also had several modiifications done over the years
There aren't any exotic techniques or material.

This is true, but of course if you can find the original manufacturer, they will have the jigs that will mean the end result is both cheaper and more geometrically true to the original design.

I know from experience that the cost of having a 1-off spaceframe manufactured here in the UK is about twice that of a typical series-produced chassis, and that's with drawings to work from rather than having to take measurements/jigs off an existing frame and working out which bits of it haven't been distorted in its argument with the tree.

[anonymous-user]

I'm spoilt by the cost I pay, last going in Asia, I can get a chassis made for about 400 pounds, with material. I wouldn worry about to much about jigs. If it's like my Phoenix you adjust any imperfections out.