How much of a headache might this be?

How much of a headache might this be?

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flyinyam

Original Poster:

175 posts

207 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Hoping for a little guidance as to whether this would be a viable purchase.

Seems some confusion as to legality.

As it's previously been mot'd , would an IVA be a formality???

Would it be registered on a 'Q' after IVA?

How usable are BECs, won't be tracking, just local hooning.

Is insurance readily available and at a reasonable cost?

Any questions I should definitely be asking?

Regards

Fy


Chris-S

282 posts

95 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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IVA and MOT are very different animals. Fundamentally, an MOT test checks that what is there, works. An IVA test to is see if what is there meets a very comprehensive and strict set of parameters. Standards for some of those items are different from IVA to MOT as well.

You best bet would be to download a copy of the current IVA manual and have a read - that should give you a good idea as to what you need to be looking at. It's free direct from VOSA (or whatever they are called this week) by the way, just google it.

Any kit should be registered as what it is, not the donor, so that might be another clue. Another common one is to acquire some old kit like a Dutton, then migrate the identity to something entirely different.

An IVA test is a non-trivial exercise but almost any well built car should be able to pass as long as there are no fundamental mistakes made with the design or assembly of the thing.

Not saying avoid, just be careful.

Steve_D

13,796 posts

265 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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As it's previously been mot'd , would an IVA be a formality???

No Way...would be quite a challenge even for someone who had lived with the regulations during a build. Trying to get it through without realy knowing the car would be difficult.

Would it be registered on a 'Q' after IVA?

It would be a 'Q'.

How usable are BECs, won't be tracking, just local hooning.

BEC are great on track but can be a pain in the butt on the road...Pulling away from the lights at 6000 rpm just to get under way.

Is insurance readily available and at a reasonable cost?

Should be yes.

Any questions I should definitely be asking?

How is the car described in a registration document?

Steve

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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this car is as good as a never registered car.....i guess it has been "driven" on donor papers, hence the seller is decalring it as illegal.

why should i buy a locost for such a price without correct paperwork....there are penty of kitcars on the market which are better, look nicer PLUS they are already correctly registered for similar money.

this car is worth around 2k...not more. most likeky the actual bids are fake anyway.

look how poor the front wings are fitted, also footwhell with pedalbox does not look promising

the car is advertized as LocUst...which, if its not wrong spelling, would mean: ladder-frame chassis, plywood body. as i cannot see any chassis-tubes insde enginebay...it might be really a locUst...than the price would even drop more

Edited by RochdaleGT on Saturday 21st April 13:25

kambites

68,438 posts

228 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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You'll need to find out whether it has a reverse gear. I believe it's a requirement for IVA these days but it was only added fairly recently... not necessarily an easy thing to retro-fit. It's also pretty useful for road use.

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

230 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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the car has already been discussed here:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/29/viewthrea...


reg-plate G360DHD

registered as Ford Sierra!!

tjere is also a link to the fortmer advert...with more pictures.....which also point into direction that the car is a "real" locUst...means plywood body on ladder frame....the worst you can buy for money.

Edited by RochdaleGT on Sunday 22 April 07:39

flyinyam

Original Poster:

175 posts

207 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Thanks guys.

Saves me lot of time and potentially a lot of money (common sense goes out the window when I'm stood next to a car, and i can pretty much justify anything with a "it'll be rite!" ).

Still on the lookout for my first 7 style fun machine.

Would the more knowledgeable than I, care to offer a valuation/opinion on this as it's only 10 miles from me.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

Over here in NI there are slim pickings for these type of cars.

Cheers

Fy.

mikeveal

4,713 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Steve_D said:
As it's previously been mot'd , would an IVA be a formality???

No Way...would be quite a challenge even for someone who had lived with the regulations during a build. Trying to get it through without realy knowing the car would be difficult.

Would it be registered on a 'Q' after IVA?

It would be a 'Q'.

How usable are BECs, won't be tracking, just local hooning.

BEC are great on track but can be a pain in the butt on the road...Pulling away from the lights at 6000 rpm just to get under way.

Is insurance readily available and at a reasonable cost?

Should be yes.

Any questions I should definitely be asking?

How is the car described in a registration document?

Steve
I disagree, but only that BECs aren't road usable. To pull away, you'll certainly need more revs than a diesel tin top, but still sub 2K. Where they are annoying is on motorways and dual carriageways. Buzzing along at 8K rpm isn't remotely relaxing, but that's not really what the cars are designed for.

BECs are just as happy bimbling along on B roads in the sunshine as they are on trackdays.

RochdaleGT

1,731 posts

230 months