Ford Crossflow alloy oil sump needs baffle
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Just start working with the alloy sump i found from Ebay for Ford crossflow engine.
Sump is in very good condition exept original baffle is missed. Does anybody possible has original or similar baffle for sale?
I also need shorted oil pickup pipe.
Can anybody give me any tips how to build baffle for the sump?
What i need to know to secure correct lubrication thru engine?
Who is the manufacturer of this sump and what is the original purpose? Formula Ford perhaps?
Sump is in very good condition exept original baffle is missed. Does anybody possible has original or similar baffle for sale?
I also need shorted oil pickup pipe.
Can anybody give me any tips how to build baffle for the sump?
What i need to know to secure correct lubrication thru engine?
Who is the manufacturer of this sump and what is the original purpose? Formula Ford perhaps?
Try looking at completed listings,there is an identical sump there with the baffle plate.
I had the identical item about 25 years ago but can't for the life of me remember the supplier,I do recall however that it never got fitted as the quality was somewhat lacking .
Definitely not a FF item, they were dry sumped so the engine could be as low as possible. (to enable the starter ring gear to make lots of sparks when short cuts were taken over the trackside kerbs!)
I had the identical item about 25 years ago but can't for the life of me remember the supplier,I do recall however that it never got fitted as the quality was somewhat lacking .
Definitely not a FF item, they were dry sumped so the engine could be as low as possible. (to enable the starter ring gear to make lots of sparks when short cuts were taken over the trackside kerbs!)
I had one remarkably similar to that about 25 years ago when I first built the Westy. My memory could well be playing tricks, but I'm pretty certain it came from Jenvey, back when they where a one-man band making alloy castings in a farmyard. Either that or it was a copy of a Jenvey item anyway. I absolutely remember ending up in the back of beyond trying to find the place.
Oil pickup was a cut & shut version of the OEM part, Can't recall any detail on the windage tray/baffles I'm afraid.
That pickup looks to have been modified already - does it not fit? Tray and baffles needn't be complicated. Windage tray can be a simple flat sheet as long as when mounted on those pillars at the side there isn't any contact between tray and crank of course. You could then add a 'box' around where the pickup penetrates the tray and even make some simple trap doors if you want to go the whole hog. Final step would be to add a baffle or two with doors to reduce surge. Make sure to include some sort of bracing in your design so you don't end up with a large unsupported sheet anywhere or it could resonate and fatigue. Just adding baffles will usually be sufficient.
Start with some CAD (cardboard aided design) until you have the basics then move to thin steel sheet. Trap doors can be made using cheap lightweight steel hinges - no need to make them huge.
Oil pickup was a cut & shut version of the OEM part, Can't recall any detail on the windage tray/baffles I'm afraid.
That pickup looks to have been modified already - does it not fit? Tray and baffles needn't be complicated. Windage tray can be a simple flat sheet as long as when mounted on those pillars at the side there isn't any contact between tray and crank of course. You could then add a 'box' around where the pickup penetrates the tray and even make some simple trap doors if you want to go the whole hog. Final step would be to add a baffle or two with doors to reduce surge. Make sure to include some sort of bracing in your design so you don't end up with a large unsupported sheet anywhere or it could resonate and fatigue. Just adding baffles will usually be sufficient.
Start with some CAD (cardboard aided design) until you have the basics then move to thin steel sheet. Trap doors can be made using cheap lightweight steel hinges - no need to make them huge.
Edited by Chris-S on Thursday 9th November 09:16
A picture's worth a thousand words ... This is the one i still have fitted. You can see the 'plate' was originally a cast alloy item with vertical baffles 'hanging down' to slow the sloshing from front to back. There one at front and back of the rectangular hole for the oil pick-up.
incidentally the pick-up that came new with it was half the depth in the strainer basket and was rectangular around 3" x 4". So it sat quite low to the bottom of the sump. Thats probably important! I''l try to find a pic of the pick-up.
Don't forget a hole for dipstick to go thru
With such baffles it has worked perfectly on track plus sprints/hills - never any momentary loss of pressure.
Edited by ggdrew on Saturday 11th November 15:01
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