GT40 vs T70

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geeeman

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Monday 11th September 2017
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what would you choose and why

southern gt40 vs gd t70


these are the only 2 good quality midengine 60s replicas i can think of in uk
seems the gd chassis is overall going to be better and has been updated

but the gt40 is a more accurate replica, also has a proper roof. slighly less expensive


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285 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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depends what you want to do, on trackdays the T70 is the better car, having owned driven one and also been on the same track in a well sorted GT40 replica. The GDT70 moda roof system is very well set up now if you need a screen/roof. mine was a T70 spyder, because thats how they started out in racing for me.

geeeman

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Monday 11th September 2017
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For Road and track days

Test drove a superformance gt40 and was disappointed heavy steering and poor road compliance


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Monday 11th September 2017
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Speak to owners on the Facebook GD page as quite a few road drive their cars regularly. The T70 is a very well developed chassis and kit. You'll get a road drive with Andy if you contact GD too

ugg10

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224 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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I think hawk can import a kirkham aluminium bodied cobra, stick a proper Ford big block in it though, none of this modern 16v coyote or ls stuff.


Others to add to the list may be the Suffolk c type, twr xj13, new mirage gt250.

geeeman

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Mirage defo nice, saw it at goodwood

But im thinking id prefer midengined

Hoonigan

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242 months

Monday 11th September 2017
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Owning a SouthernGT I'm probably bias but they really do make a cracking car, they're making a couple of T70's at the moment too... wink

geeeman

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Didnt know they make t70s also. For road?

Is your car all completed?


JohnMcL

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150 months

Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I spent ages considering this choice. Eventually went with the T70 on the basis that everyone has a GT40 (ha) and a T70 is one of the most beautiful shapes, ever. I sent about 2 years building it, passed IVA first time and have been on the road 14 months. It is a wonderful experience. I am sure I could say exactly the same about a GT40, especially a Southern.

I run as an open car with the added heated windscreen but am about to add sidescreens and a simple soft top. I don't want to go the full moda coupe route.

One point of difference is the size of the community. Ask a question on GT40s.com and the whole world is on your case. We T70 builders are a small but still effective group.

You mention replica accuracy as a factor. Given that both have non-accurate chassis, this hardly seems important. True replicas are available but quite beyond my budget. Andy will do you a closer T70 version with smaller wheels, brakes and tyres but I prefer modern performance. I also prefer his repositioning of the fuel tanks and deleting the wingtop fuel fillers. Sitting between side fuel tanks is not for me, even with bags in place.

Send me a forum email if you would like to discuss further.

geeeman

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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thanks for the info
purely on aesthetics- the southern gt externally i believe is very close to an original car in terms of dimensions/shape

comparing the gd t70 with real ones at Goodwood recently the gd car seems wider and beefier, perhaps shorter overall length too

i dont really like the moda coupe rear section - looks too modern

id be looking to get a turnkey car, and andy said a t70 would be 80-90k minimum
southern would come in a fair bit less i believe

for sure the t70 is more exclusive, more curvaceous.
it is a tough choice.. i was initially put off gt40s when i drove the superformance. but im assuming it wasnt set up quite right.


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geeeman said:
thanks for the info
purely on aesthetics- the southern gt externally i believe is very close to an original car in terms of dimensions/shape

comparing the gd t70 with real ones at Goodwood recently the gd car seems wider and beefier, perhaps shorter overall length too

i dont really like the moda coupe rear section - looks too modern

id be looking to get a turnkey car, and andy said a t70 would be 80-90k minimum
southern would come in a fair bit less i believe

for sure the t70 is more exclusive, more curvaceous.
it is a tough choice.. i was initially put off gt40s when i drove the superformance. but im assuming it wasnt set up quite right.
building one is a nice experience, and will save you £10k. you'd build one for £50-60k i guess now. dimensionally the GD body was molded from a heritage body so wasnt a million miles out, but for SVA compliance i think the wheel arches were modified. personally i prefer the spyder without screen or roof, like mine was, its a blast driving it but not in the wet lol

JohnMcL

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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geeeman said:
comparing the gd t70 with real ones at Goodwood recently the gd car seems wider and beefier, perhaps shorter overall length too
As Chris says, the body was moulded from a heritage car so is spot-on except for wheel arch shape modified for road use. The Lola wheelbase was 95" and GD is 2400mm so an apparent variation is probably down to different tyre sidewall height.

I strongly recommend a test drive although I like several others, made the decision without ever having been out in one. A look over the engineering and component specifications was enough for me.

Hoonigan

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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geeeman said:
Didnt know they make t70s also. For road?

Is your car all completed?
Not sure if it's a road car or not but they've got one in the go now, not their bread and butter though...

Mines not finished yet but hoping go IVA next year.

I'm not sure where your getting your turn key prices from for SGT, I guess not them, as factory cars are £80-90k all day long and the last one sold (that I'm aware of) went for over £80k and that wasn't even factory built car!

I can really recommend SGT if you go the 40 route they are a great bit of kit with fantastic service.

Getting there...




geeeman

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Yes when i went to see mick he gave me a price list for a turnkey car with basic spec
Think it was 65k (plus vat??)

Car looks great
What size are your front and rear wheels?

Hoonigan

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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geeeman said:
Yes when i went to see mick he gave me a price list for a turnkey car with basic spec
Think it was 65k (plus vat??)

Car looks great
What size are your front and rear wheels?
I think that could be an ex VAT price, but happy to be proven wrong, I guess spec makes s difference as a ZF box is nearly £10k on its own, couple that to fuel injected engine and there's £20k gone...

The wheels I have on mine are 15", 12's on the rear and 8's on the front, nice and wide biggrin going for Gulf arches.

geeeman

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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15s defo the way to go

Yes i would be sticking with un1 and a 302 engine , not fuel injected

This is the look id be going for..
https://www.supercars.net/blog/1965-ford-gt40-mark...

Edited by geeeman on Tuesday 12th September 21:05

Hoonigan

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Can't see the picture Photofket has ruined your link, can you use the up loader instead?

I've gone NA 347 with a Un-1 box, no way I could afford the ZF, I have gone with the alloy uprights though

Where about are you located?

Hoonigan

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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geeeman said:
15s defo the way to go

Yes i would be sticking with un1 and a 302 engine , not fuel injected

This is the look id be going for..
https://www.supercars.net/blog/1965-ford-gt40-mark...

Edited by geeeman on Tuesday 12th September 21:05
Very nice, love the wires...

geeeman

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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Yes i think a 60s road car oriented gt40 would look great.

Torrino would make the wheels but at £1000 a corner..

Im in west london

Hoonigan

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Tuesday 12th September 2017
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I'm in Chichester so not too far if you fancy popping over sometime for a upper and to poke around the car...