Is this normal for a Raw Striker
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The rear roll cage looks very low in this striker, he says it is a standard Striker rear cage and if it is it would appear the taller driver is not really made for these cars - he is 6ft 2 and says the seats are JK Composites.
Any thoughts from current owners/knowledgeable Striker people?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/motorsport/...
Any thoughts from current owners/knowledgeable Striker people?
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/motorsport/...
I think various different roll bar designs / heights have been produced over the years. No idea where that one has come from, but either way it's not going to be much good in the event that it's required....! Easy enough to change for something taller, although it's presumably welded on (?)
Equus said:
^^^ Terrifying, isn't it?
And think of all the millions of drivers of MX5s, MGFs, Alfa Spiders and all the rest who have died horrible deaths because of the complete lack of rollover protection on their vehicles.
No... wait...
but they might have crumple zones , airbags , abs and god knows what else and would have been crash tested.And think of all the millions of drivers of MX5s, MGFs, Alfa Spiders and all the rest who have died horrible deaths because of the complete lack of rollover protection on their vehicles.
No... wait...
i would still like to own a 7 type car one day
jas xjr said:
but they might have crumple zones , airbags , abs and god knows what else and would have been crash tested.
Exactly so: all the airbags and crumple zones in the world won't help you in a rollover accident, yet the truth is that rollover accidents are sufficiently rare that even the worst of the World's nanny states don't bother legislating rollover bars into mandatory existence on convertibles.Whereas all mass production cars must have airbags, crumple zones and ABS brakes, none of which the average kit car driver worries about one jot, whilst he's wailing and gnashing his teeth at a rollover bar that might be a couple of inches too short.
Ask yourself this: if you do manage to invert a Seven, do you think that you will stay firmly stuck to the seat squab whilst the properly designed rollover bar supports the car with 2" of clear air space over the top of your head? Or do you think that just possibly gravity might take over so that you fall out of the seat to grind the top off your head off and break your neck, anyway, if the accident happens at more than walking pace?
But sorry, I forgot... we all harness ourselves in sufficiently tightly to prevent that at all times, don't we?
Edited by Equus on Monday 17th April 09:09
i take your point about airbags etc not helping if the car rolls over . it seems to be quite a common accident , for example when a car hits a kerb .that a car flips over . having said that , as a percentage of all accidents , it could be quite small.
after all people are not going to post videos of 5mph shunts. we need more data
just looked at the ad. i do not think i would want to do a track day in that car , i am a short arse
after all people are not going to post videos of 5mph shunts. we need more data
just looked at the ad. i do not think i would want to do a track day in that car , i am a short arse
Edited by jas xjr on Monday 17th April 01:57
Equus said:
And think of all the millions of drivers of MX5s, MGFs, Alfa Spiders and all the rest who have died horrible deaths because of the complete lack of rollover protection on their vehicles.
No... wait...
Recent MX5s have a roolover hoop. They also have a windscreen that is structurally reinforced not to crumble and provide a primary roll-structure. Sure the old ones didn't but that doesn't mean it was clever. Also, they weren't on track (these millions of drivers).No... wait...
I've seen several 7-style cars roll on track, fortunately all with a full cage, fortunately all drivers walked away. I've also seen a lot of cars roll at relatively low speed going into gravel traps sideways (there was one in the Clio Cup at Donny yesterday) - with these low/compromised roll bars these could easily be fatal. To somewhat attempt to illegitimise the importance of roll-structures by claiming millions of road-going drivers are ok is ignorant.
Order66 said:
I've seen several 7-style cars roll on track, fortunately all with a full cage, fortunately all drivers walked away.
Funnily enough, the last car I saw roll on track wasn't fitted with a rollover bar (even one that was a couple of inches too short). The driver walked away from that one, too:
If you think you're strapped in tightly enough to prevent yourself dropping several inches if the car inverts, then you're delusional. Feel free to be so, but please don't impose your fantasies and your paranoias on the rest of us.
Equus said:
If you think you're strapped in tightly enough to prevent yourself dropping several inches if the car inverts, then you're delusional. Feel free to be so, but please don't impose your fantasies and your paranoias on the rest of us.
So lets get to the crux of your argument. You are basically saying that roll-over bars are unimportant and are doing no good?Order66 said:
So lets get to the crux of your argument. You are basically saying that roll-over bars are unimportant and are doing no good?
No, I'm basically saying that mithering because the rollover bar looks a bit on the low side needs a healthy dose of perspective.To say that it's 'worse than not having one' is blatant nonsense.
Triple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind, but are certainly not warranted by (Shock!!! Horror!!!! Oh, the humanity of it!!!!!) a single-seat roll bar on a passengered two seater. I mean, WTF, do you think civilization will end, or something?
Over reaction, much?
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