did anyone see this?

[djb7899]

no more then a week ago there was an advert for what looked like a lotus 49ish road legal kit car, all i can remember from the advert was it had a 1.8 zetec engine and was about 30K in price but cant find the advert any more.

Did any one else see it or have any info on it?

thanks

[Equus]

It was a Tiger ERA HSS

Allegedly road legal, but on a 'daylight MOT' and it's registered as a 1961 Ford, so presumably on a hooky V5.


Edited to omit incorrect information.

Edited by Equus on Tuesday 5th July 20:25

[djb7899]

Ok thanks for the info

[Equus]

A quick Google has thrown up this

And this and this

My apologies to Hallmark Sportscars - my memory clearly was playing tricks on me - it was TotalHeadturners I'd got them confused with.

[Fastpedeller]

Equus said:

It was a Tiger ERA HSS

Allegedly road legal, but on a 'daylight MOT' and it's registered as a 1961 Ford, so presumably on a hooky V5.


Edited to omit incorrect information.

Edited by Equus on Tuesday 5th July 20:25

Hmm... so is it a Ford, or Lotus, Or Tiger? I'd stay well clear in case DVLA impound it!

[marshalla]

According to DVLA it's orange and has a 1600cc engine...

[Doofus]

I looked at getting one of these road legal several years ago. I think there's a thread on here somewhere which died early on.

Conclusion: There were two hopes, short of bdising all the beauty out of the thing.

[GinG15]

fact is:

the car´s registration is not legal.

the car is a TIGER
there is no single part on the car from 1961
there is not even anything on the car which would make it liable for an age related plate
the V5c is from a orange Ford

do you see a 1961 ford in orange colour in the pics?
its like using a vauxhall astra V5c for a VW Golf.



and the name of the dealer says all: this dealer is known for its highly overpriced kitcars...usually asking double or 3 times the real value...searching for an an total amateur buyer.

car will be reported to VOSA, DVLA and traffic police...so lets see what they say.

[Russ Bost]

Doofus said:

I looked at getting one of these road legal several years ago. I think there's a thread on here somewhere which died early on.

Conclusion: There were two hopes, short of bdising all the beauty out of the thing.

I also looked at getting these road legal, not as difficult as you might think & can certainly be done, if I can get this

road legal then the Tiger would not be a massive problem & if you choose to use with a daylight MoT then most of the lights can be removed, IIRC the only requirement is for brake lights, though personally wouldn't want to be in something as exposed as that without indicators. You can even run without wheelarches, tho' they'd need to be there at IVA & if it rains you are then illegal under C & U regs. Biggest headaches are seat belt mounting positions, steering column collapse/angles, handbrake & ground clearance & for me I would want to add somewhat to the chassis height around the driver, you are clothed in a thin skin of fibreglass & very little else from around the waist up!

[Equus]

Russ Bost said:

...you are clothed in a thin skin of fibreglass & very little else from around the waist up!

In the Tiger (as opposed to a monocoque Lotus 27, for example), you're enclosed in a steel spaceframe, so no worse than any 'Seven', really - though that's not saying much!

The other big headache with the Tiger (exposed engine and gearbox) would be radii of exposed components, I guess?

[Russ Bost]

Equus said:

Russ Bost said:

...you are clothed in a thin skin of fibreglass & very little else from around the waist up!

In the Tiger (as opposed to a monocoque Lotus 27, for example), you're enclosed in a steel spaceframe, so no worse than any 'Seven', really - though that's not saying much!

The other big headache with the Tiger (exposed engine and gearbox) would be radii of exposed components, I guess?

From this image

tiger chassis

I stand by what I said, I'll be generous & say "just above the waist", tho' as you say, not very different from a 7, but then I wouldn't be in a hurry to drive a 7 on the busy roads in S.E. England without a full cage - in a side impact you stand very little chance!

Re the radii of components at the rear end, a simple engine cover solves that (early 60's cars had engine covers anyway) & you are under no obligation to run with that bodywork after IVA. To give a "for instance" it is perfectly legal to IVA a 7 style car & then swap the bodywork to a Fury, or AGM WLR style - no further test is required, you just need to declare to DVLA & insurers the modifications. It's all about knowing what is legal & what isn't & what the legitimate ways of getting around the regs are - note I say "legitimate" I certainly don't advocate ringing a Dutton registration for instance, which seems to be a favourite & some people still appear to actually believe it to be legal, it most certainly is NOT!

[GinG15]

its not discussable that such a car might get a road registration.

but there is a legal and an illegal way.

the tiger has been definately done the illegal way. whyever it has been done like that (greed of profit from the dealer, lazyness from the builder doing it the "right" way), such obvious manipulations reflect discredit on the whole kitcar scene...

finally the "normal" and honest builder has to suffer from stricter and stricter laws, caused by such idits

Edited by GinG15 on Wednesday 6th July 15:56