How to tell age of 1300 X-Flow
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In 1970, the new A711 block for 1297cc and A711M block for 1599cc were introduced with thicker block wall, square main bearing caps, large diameter cam followers and wider cam lobes, with the latter block having a 7/16" taller deck height. These changes represented a significant improvement in the reliability of the engines, and the blocks are commonly referred to as '711M' blocks. I worked for ford until 1980 when the last MK 2 Escort was the sold 1.3 finished prior to that date
The 711M block started production in late 1970 and yours, with a casting number ending AA, can be an 1100 or a 1300 engine. The 1600 block was taller and had a casting number ending in BA.
The casting number can't be used to date the block. You need the actual engine code.
The crossflow engine had a lifespan of over 30 years but then a lot of the later engines were transverse variants and some of the parts are unique.
The casting number can't be used to date the block. You need the actual engine code.
The crossflow engine had a lifespan of over 30 years but then a lot of the later engines were transverse variants and some of the parts are unique.
Edited by gtmdriver on Sunday 2nd February 09:51
The DVLA/VOSA are really quite helpful IME with such problems. You should get the letters suggested by others from a Ford dealer these will suffice. If it were a BLMC engine the likes of the A/R online would probably identify the year from the engine number. There may be similar sites about for the Ford 711M types? Best of luck!
Went through this in 2009 when I registered the Fury. The X-flow I used had come out of a Rickman Ranger & had been installed as a crate engine - so no engine No. The Ranger had uesd the .....711BA casting No. as the engine No. on it's V5!
As suggested I got a letter from Fords saying when the last 711BA engines were built & that served as a date of manufacture. Bizarrely you don't need an engine No. on the V5. I retrofitted a crate Zetec into the Fury, so again no engine number & the V5 now states "engine number not supplied"
As suggested I got a letter from Fords saying when the last 711BA engines were built & that served as a date of manufacture. Bizarrely you don't need an engine No. on the V5. I retrofitted a crate Zetec into the Fury, so again no engine number & the V5 now states "engine number not supplied"
Fury1630 said:
Went through this in 2009 when I registered the Fury. The X-flow I used had come out of a Rickman Ranger & had been installed as a crate engine - so no engine No. The Ranger had uesd the .....711BA casting No. as the engine No. on it's V5!
As suggested I got a letter from Fords saying when the last 711BA engines were built & that served as a date of manufacture. Bizarrely you don't need an engine No. on the V5. I retrofitted a crate Zetec into the Fury, so again no engine number & the V5 now states "engine number not supplied"
I live and learn. That being the case how can the DVLA/Vosa know if a V8 engine is installed or indeed a V12 engine or what engine is supposed to be there? Strikes me as a stopgap measure. Unidentified engines in a system depending on engine size as a measure for most things financial it seems typical DVLA nonsense to me. But clearly it is a fact and I appreciate the update.As suggested I got a letter from Fords saying when the last 711BA engines were built & that served as a date of manufacture. Bizarrely you don't need an engine No. on the V5. I retrofitted a crate Zetec into the Fury, so again no engine number & the V5 now states "engine number not supplied"
Steffan said:
Strikes me as a stopgap measure. Unidentified engines in a system depending on engine size as a measure for most things financial it seems typical DVLA nonsense to me.
Quite! As it seems that Ford & presumably others don't stamp an engine No. on until it fitted - so a crate engine has no number - this must happen quite often. i thought the DVLA might supply me with a No. to stamp on like they would with a chassis, but it seems not.Fury1630 said:
Quite! As it seems that Ford & presumably others don't stamp an engine No. on until it fitted - so a crate engine has no number - this must happen quite often. i thought the DVLA might supply me with a No. to stamp on like they would with a chassis, but it seems not.
Indeed no engine would have a number till matched to a shell as (deffo in Fords case) the engine number is the chassis number of the shell (number sequence only), i've seen replacement crate engines in 60s/70s/80s Fords with no number, a fresh factory looking stamped number and some real dodgy wonky stamps, all factory replacemnt units fitted at a dealers, i've made better jobs of restamping new crate blocks myself than some Ford dealers managed 
Bit of a resurection...
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TK00014 which makes it October 1977, an old punk like me!
Due to getting some unexpected time on my hands, and prompted by No 1 son, the Locost has been completed, well nearly.
Fuel gauge fitted and working. Wiring tidied, engine cooling system treated and flushed which demonstrated that the radiator is shot. I believe it is a Mk 1 or 2 Escort one as per engine donor? I will get it recored locally to ensure it will fit back OK.
Aim is to compete at a Hillclimb at Harewood this year....
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|https://thumbsnap.com/wyYMAuN2[/url]TK00014 which makes it October 1977, an old punk like me!
Due to getting some unexpected time on my hands, and prompted by No 1 son, the Locost has been completed, well nearly.
Fuel gauge fitted and working. Wiring tidied, engine cooling system treated and flushed which demonstrated that the radiator is shot. I believe it is a Mk 1 or 2 Escort one as per engine donor? I will get it recored locally to ensure it will fit back OK.
Aim is to compete at a Hillclimb at Harewood this year....
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