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Yeah, those are the kind of issues I was wondering about. All new to me so not sure as to the extent of them.
Not much has happened to the car so I haven't updated the site but the engine has just been rebuilt and I'm getting it back in a couple of weeks, so progress will start again, which is why I've started thinking about options....
Not much has happened to the car so I haven't updated the site but the engine has just been rebuilt and I'm getting it back in a couple of weeks, so progress will start again, which is why I've started thinking about options....
Monty.
Any fibreglass body being painted for the first time should ideally be baked during the preparation to POP any air pockets under the Gel coat. If this is not done, they will surely appear in later life after exposure to the heat of the sun. As fibreglass has a tendancy to move when heated, It is desirable that the body is fitted to the chassis. Yes it is a pain to mask everything up. This is one of the reasons why the average decent paint job on a cobra is £3 - £3.5k. You gets what you pays for
Any fibreglass body being painted for the first time should ideally be baked during the preparation to POP any air pockets under the Gel coat. If this is not done, they will surely appear in later life after exposure to the heat of the sun. As fibreglass has a tendancy to move when heated, It is desirable that the body is fitted to the chassis. Yes it is a pain to mask everything up. This is one of the reasons why the average decent paint job on a cobra is £3 - £3.5k. You gets what you pays for
Damn, Purple, you beat me to it.
The paint shop I last used said he was going to bake my JBA Falcon body before he even started the prep. As it happened the glass work was good quality and nothing popped. He had been stuffed on a previous job which produced hundreds of holes and he had to start again.
Steve
The paint shop I last used said he was going to bake my JBA Falcon body before he even started the prep. As it happened the glass work was good quality and nothing popped. He had been stuffed on a previous job which produced hundreds of holes and he had to start again.
Steve
montypython said:
Possibly a bit of a dumb-arse question, but...
The guy spraying my car is keen to have the shell/panels to paint seperately from the chassis.
Is this a dumb idea?
Vince told me to tell you (as he is not allowed to post) don’t let any one spray a GRP body off the chassis! Unless it’s like the GD! and is designed to be removed! This is totally not possible with the Python as the body is part of the whole structure of the car,(thats how he keeps the weight down) and is best fixed to the chassis.
This is how the red demo was painted; of course you can remove all the doors and boot bonnet and spray then off the car, but not the body.
Vince says that GRP is more of a "live" material and if it is heated without the support of the chassis I could well change shape in the oven !(thats why he ships bodys on chassis as can be over 120 in side a container in Sri lanka! so cooked some before you got it).
He also said that this is not the first time he has heard this from a painter! Is good for steel but not GRP.
Jenn
Ps he was just going to mail you direct but thought it was a good point to post.
Purple AK said:
Monty.
Any fibreglass body being painted for the first time should ideally be baked during the preparation to POP any air pockets under the Gel coat. If this is not done, they will surely appear in later life after exposure to the heat of the sun. As fibreglass has a tendancy to move when heated, It is desirable that the body is fitted to the chassis. Yes it is a pain to mask everything up. This is one of the reasons why the average decent paint job on a cobra is £3 - £3.5k. You gets what you pays for
Hi Purple.
I think £3-3.5K is on the steep side.
For a "Flat and pollish" finish I use two painters (Of which my customers have the option).
A std spec car has the paint finnish that is on most of my builds @ around £1400.(The hard top car at Donnington 2003 was one of these)
Roll control (The car at Donnington this year)on the other hand used the other painter and his car would have cost £2000 if he had gone for a regular metallic or mica colour (inc. stripes) rather than that House of kolor "Bling bling" stuff and is as good as any SMS job that I've ever seen. This price includes pre-baking.............He is a bit slow on getting that car back though, but I am working on him on this one!
montypython said:
Well that solves that then. 
Jenn, are you Vince's other half?
If you are... could you ask Reg to post me the build photos CD (I've lost his number)?
Vince’s “Better half” you mean? We did meet when we picked up your chassis in March.
Floyd was with us too.
Will pass on the message
Jenn
One other thing Si, Vince told me to tell you.
The springs you have will be far too hard (according to Vince), as you need 100-110lbs front and 160-170lbs rears.
Sorry about that but no would believe Vince when he said the poundage he thought would be good, and pushed the harder springs on him, (but he was right)
Most good spring and shock guys will exchange the springs you have if the paint is not damaged.
the other 7 builders of pythons should take note; Si python is a 535i as is the demo.
Jenn
>> Edited by fast jenn on Monday 25th October 11:28
The springs you have will be far too hard (according to Vince), as you need 100-110lbs front and 160-170lbs rears.
Sorry about that but no would believe Vince when he said the poundage he thought would be good, and pushed the harder springs on him, (but he was right)
Most good spring and shock guys will exchange the springs you have if the paint is not damaged.
the other 7 builders of pythons should take note; Si python is a 535i as is the demo.
Jenn
>> Edited by fast jenn on Monday 25th October 11:28
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