Converting from daylight MOT to full MOT

Converting from daylight MOT to full MOT

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Corpulent Tosser

Original Poster:

5,468 posts

252 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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A question which I hope someone will be able to answer for me.

If a car is road legal but with only a daylight MOT (not fitted with lights) and the owner wants to change it to a full MOT, does it require to be put through another SVA test or just the MOT after the lights are fitted.

Ta
CT

mattstead

369 posts

253 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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just an MOT will be required if it's already legal and on the road....Although quite how it would be as I wasn't aware of a "daylight" SVA, I assume it once had lights previously????

gdr

589 posts

267 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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CT, are you thinking about how to get home from Knockhill next weekend after 5pm?

I checked my SVA manual and as far as I can make out, there are obligatory requirements for lights, ie front/rear position lights, dip/main beam etc so presumably your car must have had lights fitted when it went through SVA. To get MOT without the "daylight only" proviso I would say just put same or equivalent lights back on and get it MOT tested. Your SVA cert presumably makes no mention of restricted use. I can send you the SVA stuff on lighting if you want to check requirements or see MOT testers manual on www.motuk.co.uk.
Cheers

Corpulent Tosser

Original Poster:

5,468 posts

252 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Cheers Guys

GDR - My current car has lights, this is another car I have seen but don't know its SVA status, but it has a current 'daylight' MOT, so maybe the lights have just been removed at some time though why anyone would do that beats me. I need to ask some questions of the seller I think.


BTW I am not taking the Tiger or the Impreza to KH (The Tiger is for sale and the Impreza is sold) but I will probably be there to hear the Ultima's wheels spin going over the crest on the main straight.
I hope it is going to be dry for you.

moomin

311 posts

271 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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suspecting the vehicle in question, it is too old to have required an SVA, hence being road registered and running on a daylight-use-only MOT.
to get a full MOT you just need to stick some headlights on it, and get it through the MOT test.

moomin

grahambell

2,718 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Sounds odd to me. Never heard of a 'daylight MOT'.

As far as I'm aware, all motorised vehicles must have lights fitted if they're to be used on the road. Possible exceptions might be agricultural vehicles.

Might be worth a word with your local MOT spot, but I'd advise you not to buy this car unless you've had some sort of official comfirmation that it's 100% legal.

Could just be some bullshit from the seller.

Corpulent Tosser

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5,468 posts

252 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Moomin
You are correct, I contacted the seller and the car was registered in '88 before SVA was introduced.

CT

Corpulent Tosser

Original Poster:

5,468 posts

252 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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grahambell

It appears that a daylight MOT is something which can be issued, from The Testers Manual
1.1 Front and Rear Position Lamps, Registration Plate Lamps Rear fog lamps

This inspection applies to: all vehicles, except those which either have no front or rear position lamps or have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted over or masked that are
. only used during daylight hours, and
. not used at times of seriously reduced visibility.

If this situation occurs, the vehicle presenter should be issued with an advisory notice recording the above and it should also be recorded on the carbon copy of the VT20.


While it is not something I would want it seems genuine.

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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There's a thread on PH somewhere (SP&L?) from a few months back that goes into quite some detail about the daylight MOT and whether there's an equivelant daylight SVA. The idea was to try to get a single seater race car road registered without having to add lights.

traction

366 posts

259 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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LexSport said:
There's a thread on PH somewhere (SP&L?) from a few months back that goes into quite some detail about the daylight MOT and whether there's an equivelant daylight SVA. The idea was to try to get a single seater race car road registered without having to add lights.


The answer to that would be no, or atleast not any more (since 98 when the SVA came in), because any single seater that has yet to go on the road would need to pass the SVA to get it on the road, hence needing lights and enclosed wheels etc.

Ta.

grahambell

2,718 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Corpulent Tosser said:
grahambell

It appears that a daylight MOT is something which can be issued, from The Testers Manual


We live and learn.

grumpy

970 posts

248 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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In the early days of the SVA it was ok to submit a car without lights and still get a pass. (If it's not there then it can't be tested).
Robin Hood advised their customers to do this.
However this "loop hole" was soon closed.