pilgrim sumo II help!
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Hi, I have been offered a Pilgrim Sumo II body kit which I am thinking of buying for my sons 21st birthday but I have been warned of tighter M O T testing of kit cars in particular windscreen materials, does anyone know if a laminated screen is available and are there any other pitfalls with the mark II? Also are we likely to encounter any other problems with availabilty of parts including chassis?
Thanks for any help!
Thanks for any help!
I don't think the windscreen is anything to worry about especially if buying a new one from Pilgrim.
Problems with the Mk II that I found where;
1) Headlamp angle was wrong so required spacers approx 15mm at bottom of each light to get them to point correctly (moulding angle was wrong)
2) Nearside front wheel ends up being too close for comfort to back edge of wheelarch, offside was fine, again can only put this down to a moulding problem as all other dimensions were correct ie to back of car.
Other than that the fibreglass work was very good but be prepared to put a lot of blood sweat and tears into getting it to look the part. Inner wheel arches are a pain and you'll need plenty of spacers for the doors.
cheers, John
www.Madabout-Kitcars.com
Problems with the Mk II that I found where;
1) Headlamp angle was wrong so required spacers approx 15mm at bottom of each light to get them to point correctly (moulding angle was wrong)
2) Nearside front wheel ends up being too close for comfort to back edge of wheelarch, offside was fine, again can only put this down to a moulding problem as all other dimensions were correct ie to back of car.
Other than that the fibreglass work was very good but be prepared to put a lot of blood sweat and tears into getting it to look the part. Inner wheel arches are a pain and you'll need plenty of spacers for the doors.
cheers, John
www.Madabout-Kitcars.com
Not quite sure what you mean by "body kit" the Sumo "kit" has it's own chassis. Assumeing this is what you will have I dont think there's much difference between the Mk2 and current Mk3 other than the Mk3 chassis has a number of extra tubes in to make it stiffer as a lot of these cars are now built and fitted with V8 Chevy engines.
If the car is correctly registered then there are no problems, however if it is incorrectly registered, or not registered at all then it will requiring an SVA test prior to it been given a vin number, (registration).
Tes SVA test is like an mot but is done a number of testing stations around the country, these are normally HGV testing stations, although there are a number of dedicated SVA testing stations now in existance.
The SVA test can easlly take 4-6 hours to complete and costs £165. It checks every aspect of the cars build and although the Sumo is capable of passing it's not simply a case of bolting it togther, job done.
You must follow the SVA manual in the corse of the build or will have no chance of the car passing.
It covers things like internal/external projections and even the distance between the clips holding the petrol/brake pipe.
Check out the Cobra club site, they have a section dedicated to the Sumo build.
Good luck,
If the car is correctly registered then there are no problems, however if it is incorrectly registered, or not registered at all then it will requiring an SVA test prior to it been given a vin number, (registration).
Tes SVA test is like an mot but is done a number of testing stations around the country, these are normally HGV testing stations, although there are a number of dedicated SVA testing stations now in existance.
The SVA test can easlly take 4-6 hours to complete and costs £165. It checks every aspect of the cars build and although the Sumo is capable of passing it's not simply a case of bolting it togther, job done.
You must follow the SVA manual in the corse of the build or will have no chance of the car passing.
It covers things like internal/external projections and even the distance between the clips holding the petrol/brake pipe.
Check out the Cobra club site, they have a section dedicated to the Sumo build.
Good luck,
Mouldy.
The Mk2 Sumo was either Cortina or Granada based, and only suitable for up to V6 power plants. Your best bet is to have a word with Tony Holmes at Pilgrim 01273 493860, to see if the Mk2 body can be made to fit the current Mk3 chassis. (I suspect not but a may be wrong) If not the chances of finding a Mk2 chassis are less than slim. All other aspects of the build to pass SVA are not insumountable with the right bits.
Good Luck
The Mk2 Sumo was either Cortina or Granada based, and only suitable for up to V6 power plants. Your best bet is to have a word with Tony Holmes at Pilgrim 01273 493860, to see if the Mk2 body can be made to fit the current Mk3 chassis. (I suspect not but a may be wrong) If not the chances of finding a Mk2 chassis are less than slim. All other aspects of the build to pass SVA are not insumountable with the right bits.
Good Luck
As far as I can remember, the Sumo body didn't change at all between the Mk II and III cars - it's the same thing !!
Also, there was a special version of the Mk II which was designed to take the Rover V8 - and I've got a very nice tuned 4.6 litre in mine !!
If youre after Mk II chassis, I seem to remember that Pilgrim had a few going at very low prices a little while ago.
Pete.
Also, there was a special version of the Mk II which was designed to take the Rover V8 - and I've got a very nice tuned 4.6 litre in mine !!
If youre after Mk II chassis, I seem to remember that Pilgrim had a few going at very low prices a little while ago.
Pete.
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