Crap tyres please.

Crap tyres please.

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mattstead

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369 posts

253 months

Monday 24th May 2004
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I'm sick to death of these super soft sticky grippy tyres that offer huge levels of grip and wear out real quick (i.e. about 1 day!!!)

What I need are the cheapest, crapest, tyres made of wood, or plastic, none of this rubber stuff.
I remember motorbike couriers all used to fit Chen shing tyres as they did about 50K miles (but offered zero grip), has any one got any recommendations (if thats the correct term) for really nasty tyres that even if you wanted to , you just couldn't kill?

Funderbunk

27 posts

247 months

Monday 24th May 2004
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Heh... when I lived overseas on the Marshall Islands, I was amused to learn that after the American forces took control of the islands from the Japanese in World War II, there was so much shrapnel about that tires lasted less time than it took to install them. The solution hatched by some ingenious GI was to pack the tires with palm leaves, instead of air. Run flat tires, indeed!

mattstead

Original Poster:

369 posts

253 months

Monday 24th May 2004
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What if I was to get some HARD compound race / rally tyres? How hard do they do? as I'd hate for them to actually get up to temperature and actually start giving me grip, which would be just my luck...super grippy slicks that last for ever

Mikey G

4,784 posts

247 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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mattstead said:
What if I was to get some HARD compound race / rally tyres? How hard do they do?


Probably softer than your average Yoko!

Cant you modify slightly and fit some tractor tyres on?

Funderbunk

27 posts

247 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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Ask around and see if you can find someone who works at the railway - it would seem that metal locomotive wheels would last quite a long time, and the flange would dig into the roadway and provide some cornering grip...

BobM

895 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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mattstead said:
What if I was to get some HARD compound race / rally tyres? How hard do they do? as I'd hate for them to actually get up to temperature and actually start giving me grip, which would be just my luck...super grippy slicks that last for ever
As Mikey G says, not such a good plan. I looked into these for my Evo for trackdays. Rally slicks are designed to last a single stage, 40 miles max

IIRC Colway F2s are cheap remoulds with the same sort of crows feet pattern as the rally slicks and I heard they last quite well. A bit interesting in the wet apparently

RushV8

99 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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With ~ 500BHP/t I also find tyre wear is a daily event, especially on track days.... I wonder why ?

Got a set of trackday remoulds from Europa Motorspares called "Technics" Nova , 225/50 x 15" ZR for ~ £33 each , and despite doing insane things on airfield days etc the buggers don't appear to be losing much tread. They slide well, and wet grip is dicey : so you might love 'em.
Track day'd it at last minute and left normal road rubber : Hankook's, and although tread wear a bigger problem, grip level wet and dry were great - they're less than £30 a tyre from my cheapest local tyre fit centre !

F355GTS

3,745 posts

262 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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Matt

What sizes?

dangerrous

44 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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okay here goes, I used to do motor racing, oval short circuit.
We would use 205*60*15, they were pirelli licenced remoulds and lasted the distance, the softer compound was perfect for dry grip.
The sizes available?
Any size that the boat had brought in from the cheq republic, good thing is that they target the low profile market up to at least 18"
How much, well from your friendly wholesaler mine were a back braking £12+vat each. These were rated and directional plus had thick walls improving tire roll.
My wholesaler is Southern tyres in Southend, you must approach them with the assurance that they will be for track use or not in the local area, their customers can get quite sensitive about normal Joe Public buying at trade price

feet

135 posts

247 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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BobM said:

IIRC Colway F2s are cheap remoulds with the same sort of crows feet pattern as the rally slicks and I heard they last quite well. A bit interesting in the wet apparently

Would recommend the Colways anyday. Relatively cheap, very high grip, and very progressive when sliding. Used to run Toyo Proxes on an overpowered Westfield, and would last about half an airfield day. Can get 2, perhaps three airfield days on the Colways, with more grip - and thats very sideways allday.
Never tried them in the wet though, I imagine they would be lethal. If used on the road though, they make a horrible whining/screeching roadnoise on smooth surfaces. I think its the air escaping from the cutouts as they compress, as there aren't any grooves to the edge of the tyre.

mattstead

Original Poster:

369 posts

253 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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RushV8 said:


Got a set of trackday remoulds from Europa Motorspares called "Technics" Nova , 225/50 x 15" ZR for ~ £33 each


Sound Quite promising.

I need sizes along the lines of 215/50/16 (i.e. 195 - 225)

Got a contact for europa?

mattstead

Original Poster:

369 posts

253 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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dangerrous said:
How much, well from your friendly wholesaler mine were a back braking £12+vat each. Southern tyres in Southend, you must approach them with the assurance that they will be for track use or not in the local area, their customers can get quite sensitive about normal Joe Public buying at trade price


£12!!! my kind of tyre how do I get some?