Ineos Grenadier customer cars arrive at dealers

Ineos Grenadier customer cars arrive at dealers

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300bhp/ton

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41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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I believe the cars are being held until around the 28th Feb for collection, although customers have been allowed to view their cars. Which are now arriving at Swiss dealers.

There is also a big media event happening in N Scotland, but restrictions apply until the 8th Feb, so unlikely to see anything published before then.



Simply loving that blue colour cloud9

Walk around of a customer vehicle at a dealership.




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I guess of note, there were some very vocal PH users that seem to have nothing but hatred and contempt for this vehicle, swearing blind it would never see the light of day and that they were infallibly correct on this (you know who you are, or I could link thread/post user names winkhehe )

I wonder, are any of you prepared to eat humble pie and say you were wrong? tongue out

sunbeam alpine

7,079 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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I much prefer the look of that to the current LR offering...

What about prices?

ETA: Would prefer it without the snorkel!

Edited by sunbeam alpine on Wednesday 1st February 13:02

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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sunbeam alpine said:
I much prefer the look of that to the current LR offering...

What about prices?

ETA: Would prefer it without the snorkel!

Edited by sunbeam alpine on Wednesday 1st February 13:02
Like all things currently, prices are strong.

They are priced comparably to the new Defender, but don't go as high. Which puts them slightly more money than Toyota Land Cruiser or a good spec Ford Ranger. Although they are of higher spec/performance than a Land Cruiser or Ranger.

Cobracc

3,443 posts

157 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.

Well done Jim...!

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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I still don't really get it, I think I'd still just by an old Defender or similar if I wanted a "real" off-roader. Fair play to them for getting it to production though.

GR86

591 posts

103 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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300bhp/ton said:
sunbeam alpine said:
I much prefer the look of that to the current LR offering...

What about prices?

ETA: Would prefer it without the snorkel!

Edited by sunbeam alpine on Wednesday 1st February 13:02
Like all things currently, prices are strong.

They are priced comparably to the new Defender, but don't go as high. Which puts them slightly more money than Toyota Land Cruiser or a good spec Ford Ranger. Although they are of higher spec/performance than a Land Cruiser or Ranger.
You'd have to be mad to buy one over of a Land Cruiser. Depreciation off a cliff I think.

300bhp/ton

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41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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GR86 said:
You'd have to be mad to buy one over of a Land Cruiser. Depreciation off a cliff I think.
Kind of a mad comment. The Land Cruiser only comes with a low powered slow diesel engine and is way behind in almost every area. Plus it's fugly. Its not as if we get the 70 Series here in the UK.

Depreciation is only 1 part of buying. Looking at your car history, it clearly hasn't been your primary concern either, so why post about it like this? It's not as if you have a crystal ball and predict the future either.

300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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ZedLeg said:
I still don't really get it, I think I'd still just by an old Defender or similar if I wanted a "real" off-roader. Fair play to them for getting it to production though.
News flash, you can't buy an old Defender new.

Frankly your argument could apply to any car, so why don't all car makers toss in the towel if it is pointless making new cars. Everyone should just buy used ones rolleyes

As a huge Land Rover lover, the Grenadier is way better spec and way more capable than the old 110.

Cfnteabag

1,200 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Cobracc said:
Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.

Well done Jim...!
I'm sure I'm due a parrot here, or this comment is strongly tongue in cheek but are they not built at the old Smart factory?

RedWhiteMonkey

7,234 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Cobracc said:
Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.

Well done Jim...!
Except they're being built in Hambach, France- https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/explore/the-grena...

I might need a parrot too, if I've missed the joke on this one!

Edited by RedWhiteMonkey on Wednesday 1st February 13:35


edit - Hambach is in France not Germany, its the old Smart factory

Edited by RedWhiteMonkey on Wednesday 1st February 14:31

Truckosaurus

12,047 posts

291 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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300bhp/ton said:
Kind of a mad comment. The Land Cruiser only comes with a low powered slow diesel engine and is way behind in almost every area....
The LC (Prado) does, at least, have proven reliability on its side.

If you were buying a Grenadine as a working or expedition vehicle then you'd certainly be comparing it to the Land Cruiser (or a Hilux)

As a fun weekend 'lifestyle' vehicle, then the Toyota is a bit boring in comparison.

abzmike

9,288 posts

113 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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If they're ready to go to customers why not let them go? Are they not late enough already?

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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300bhp/ton said:
ZedLeg said:
I still don't really get it, I think I'd still just by an old Defender or similar if I wanted a "real" off-roader. Fair play to them for getting it to production though.
News flash, you can't buy an old Defender new.

Frankly your argument could apply to any car, so why don't all car makers toss in the towel if it is pointless making new cars. Everyone should just buy used ones rolleyes

As a huge Land Rover lover, the Grenadier is way better spec and way more capable than the old 110.
Yes, thank you. I'm aware they don't make new Defenders anymore but the whole point of them is that you can pick up a 25 year old one and it would be much the same as a new one. You're clearly passionate about the Grenadier, I'm just not sure that the demand for a £70k SUV with solid axles is there.

I'd agree that the Grenadier is better specced, not sure about more capable and I'll be curious to see how reliability is once they start getting used.

Like I say, I think they're cool but I don't think I'd be interested in buying even if I had the money.

Roger Irrelevant

3,113 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Ah fantastic, a Grenadier thread. I'll grab a nice hot cup of cocoa and settle into my favourite armchair to watch the usual suspects argue about live axles, ladder chassis and other such things for the next 500 posts.

Olivergt

1,648 posts

88 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
Cobracc said:
Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.

Well done Jim...!
Except they're being built in Hambach, Germany - https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/explore/the-grena...

I might need a parrot too, if I've missed the joke on this one!

Edited by RedWhiteMonkey on Wednesday 1st February 13:35
And the engineering team are based in Stuttgart:


"Our 200-strong team of expert engineers started working full-time on the vehicle from our offices in Stuttgart."




ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Olivergt said:
RedWhiteMonkey said:
Cobracc said:
Think it's fantastic these are being built in Britain. A fantastic vote of confidence in brexit Britain from arch brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe creating all those high paid, high skilled jobs.

Well done Jim...!
Except they're being built in Hambach, Germany - https://ineosgrenadier.com/en/gb/explore/the-grena...

I might need a parrot too, if I've missed the joke on this one!

Edited by RedWhiteMonkey on Wednesday 1st February 13:35
And the engineering team are based in Stuttgart:


"Our 200-strong team of expert engineers started working full-time on the vehicle from our offices in Stuttgart."
An old Steyr Puch factory iirc?

bobbo89

5,557 posts

152 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
As a fun weekend 'lifestyle' vehicle, then the Toyota is a bit boring in comparison.
This is where the bulk of their sales will go IMO. I kind of fall into that category and would be that sort of customer and if i'm being honest with msyelf, I would have one....

RedWhiteMonkey

7,234 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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ZedLeg said:
An old Steyr Puch factory iirc?
Its being built at the old Smart factory, nothing to do with Steyr Puch as far as I am aware.

braddo

11,252 posts

195 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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Oh great, 300hp/ton has a new drum to bang for the forseeable future. No more crappy yank tanks - this will be the answer to every car buying question.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

115 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
ZedLeg said:
An old Steyr Puch factory iirc?
Its being built at the old Smart factory, nothing to do with Steyr Puch as far as I am aware.
Ah right, maybe getting confused in my head with the G-Wagens Steyr built.