Ineos Grenadier?

[Cogcog]

Anybody put a deposit down?

I know the prices are not entirely clear as yet but I am tempted to bob in the £450 and see what happens. It certainly looks better vaueand more LR than the new Defender.

[Cold]

Cogcog said:

Anybody put a deposit down?

I know the prices are not entirely clear as yet but I am tempted to bob in the £450 and see what happens. It certainly looks better vaueand more LR than the new Defender.

There's a short thread already running here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Although, for some reason both threads are in the Land Rover part of PH.

[chandrew]

There's a white one running around St. Moritz at the moment. I thought it was one of the Ivecos when I first saw it. I suspect that you have to be quite geeky to realise it's not an old Defender, bit like knowing the difference between a late last model G wagon and one of the new ones.

I'll try and grab a photo next time I see it.

[chandrew]

Here we go. A dark grey one with European lights. There is a white one with US spec tail lights and a note saying it’s a US spec test vehicle as well

[anonymous-user]

Those tail pipes look perilously exposed

[100SRV]

The front bumper and under-run guard to a good job of eating into the approach angle too.

[anonymous-user]

That looks crap. Front is wrong, rear suspension mounts too low from side view, exhausts are wrong. Looks like a crap Lada version of a Defender. Just goes to show how hard it is to design a car, even a very simple one.

[loskie]

Crossflow Kid said:

Those tail pipes look perilously exposed

"perilously exposed" Or like a wheelbarrow?

[100SRV]

YorkshireWhisky said:

That looks crap. Front is wrong, rear suspension mounts too low from side view, exhausts are wrong. Looks like a crap Lada version of a Defender. Just goes to show how hard it is to design a car, even a very simple one.

I thought the same about the rear suspension mounts - asking to catch when crossing a ridge. I'll have to look for a chassis drawing to see how the suspension linkage is arranged. Even Discovery 2 managed to keep the radius arms nicely tucked up - these rear links look very short.

[Bill]

Good to see they've kept the traditional panel gaps though! And what the hell is going on between the exhausts? There's a massive box below the tow hitch.

[FunkyNige]

Crossflow Kid said:

Those tail pipes look perilously exposed

Surely that's pre-production and will be tidied up come release? Or am I due a woosh parrot?

[100SRV]

Had a look at the chassis film earlier - the front and rear axles have four rather short control arms arranged in a parallelogram, makes for neat packaging but the joints are describing quite a serious arc as the suspension articulates. Might explain why they have fitted differential locks too - the geometry works to inhibit body roll.

[The test driver]

FunkyNige said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Those tail pipes look perilously exposed

Surely that's pre-production and will be tidied up come release? Or am I due a woosh parrot?

Nah you're spot on, there pre-prod for mounting emissions testing equipment on.