2024 UK Targa/Road Rallying Thread
Discussion
Basingstoke Motor club will be holding navigator training sessions and practice 12-Cars in January and February.
Training will be on the 1st Wednesday of the months, with the actual events on the 3rd Wednesday.
12-Car rallies are navigational events where the navigator and driver work as a team to plot and drive the route in the correct time limit.
Any car can be used as long as it has plain bodywork (no stickers / advertising etc).
Insurance for the event can be arranged for a small fee.
The events will be around 30 miles long (60 minutes). An ideal length to get around and back to the start venue for debrief and drinks etc.
They will be open to anyone who wishes to come along. They can supply drivers and pottis etc.
Both will be on OS map 185 (Dash4it are sensibly priced)
Training will be on the 1st Wednesday of the months, with the actual events on the 3rd Wednesday.
12-Car rallies are navigational events where the navigator and driver work as a team to plot and drive the route in the correct time limit.
Any car can be used as long as it has plain bodywork (no stickers / advertising etc).
Insurance for the event can be arranged for a small fee.
The events will be around 30 miles long (60 minutes). An ideal length to get around and back to the start venue for debrief and drinks etc.
They will be open to anyone who wishes to come along. They can supply drivers and pottis etc.
Both will be on OS map 185 (Dash4it are sensibly priced)
Autosport piece about doing a clubman 12-Car rally.
https://www.autosport.com/national/news/the-low-co...
https://www.autosport.com/national/news/the-low-co...
I was as a navigator
Was a great event, 12 cars, lots of marshals
All got around.
Picked up a puncture on 1st section which dropped us back and I made a few mistakes that cost us.
Looking forward to the next events. Is a very busy calendar.
Dolphin 12 car on 2nd for me as cannot do the Craven on the 29th
Was a great event, 12 cars, lots of marshals
All got around.
Picked up a puncture on 1st section which dropped us back and I made a few mistakes that cost us.
Looking forward to the next events. Is a very busy calendar.
Dolphin 12 car on 2nd for me as cannot do the Craven on the 29th
thepawbroon said:
First 12 Car of the year for me last night.
A brilliantly run event by Toby and Andy of Sevenoaks and District Motor Club, their first as organisers.
Car troubles meant it wasn't great for us, first of all the power supply to the Poti (illuminated map magnifier) failed making plotting and navigation very hard for Chas the navigator, then the exhaust hangers disintegrated, necessitating a long halt to repair. This meant we had to cut a couple of sections to get to the final control before OTL, hence a barrowload of penalties. Still, we got a finish and weren't last! Onwards and Upwards!
Well done for getting to the finish. A brilliantly run event by Toby and Andy of Sevenoaks and District Motor Club, their first as organisers.
Car troubles meant it wasn't great for us, first of all the power supply to the Poti (illuminated map magnifier) failed making plotting and navigation very hard for Chas the navigator, then the exhaust hangers disintegrated, necessitating a long halt to repair. This meant we had to cut a couple of sections to get to the final control before OTL, hence a barrowload of penalties. Still, we got a finish and weren't last! Onwards and Upwards!
Looking forwards to the Manston Targa.
Is a busy time for me, more events that I want to do than can.
However, Bath Festival is booked (Nav) and Bramley (Nav & Drive) as well as the Oxford 20/20 and sundry 12 cars.
FactoryBacked said:
Started my year with the last ever Bagger. Nearly a 250 mile route in the end! Had my best run as a nav after a couple of years of frustration. Found some good flow and finished 2nd in the novice class and 22nd overall out of 70 starters. Fog, ice, mud, gravel, it had it all. Still annoyed I missed one of the final control a which cost is 1st in class by about 4 minutes.
Then it’s Bath Festival after that which I am really looking forward to.
Well done on the Bagger, had planned to do it, but life got in the way.Then it’s Bath Festival after that which I am really looking forward to.
Same with Taunton - too many events - not enough 'passes'
Bath Festival should be good, will be interesting to see how it changes to cope with the new rules (R21).
fat80b said:
Does anyone here have an understanding of the Targa regs in regards to engine swaps.
My understanding is that there is nothing to prohibit an engine swap in a Targa car
- i.e. I could transplant a Honda S2000 engine into my Mk2 Escort and as long as I keep the standard induction, it can be road rally eligible.
Is that everyone else's understanding?
I believe that is correct. My understanding is that there is nothing to prohibit an engine swap in a Targa car
- i.e. I could transplant a Honda S2000 engine into my Mk2 Escort and as long as I keep the standard induction, it can be road rally eligible.
Is that everyone else's understanding?
Applicable MSUK Regulations (page 320):-
R18.2.4
R18.2.41
R18.3.1
FactoryBacked said:
PaulV, saw you guys heading off with the car on the trailer while we were queuing up to start test 5 back at Castle Combe. What happened?
The newly fitted clutch started to slip on test 5.Supposedly good for 220bhp, way over what the car has.
Alex was rather miffed to say the least.
A pity as we were quite good on pace (baulking notwithstanding)
Beethree said:
Has anyone got experience of using a Focus ST170 for Targas? I’ve got the chance to get my dads one for free, needed only an inlet manifold and some tyres, and I’m immediately thinking it’d make a great Targa car for me to have some fun in.
I assume a sump guard is a necessity, anything else?
I haven't seen many around, have a look at:- I assume a sump guard is a necessity, anything else?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/334976716911168/se...
There shouldl be some nuggets of wisdom there.
I spoke to one of the organisers after the event.
He said that the code boards were designed to get people to stop as that was helping keep people away from bogey times.
It seemed to work okay however as some have stated, they could easily be misread if you rushed it or got the angle wrong.
I was clear until test 9, then cocked up and transcribed two wrong onto the timecard.
Tyres did seem to be a problem for some, was easy to kill the set on the driving axle. Cheap and cheerful may be in order next time.
A well run event though, made good use of the land available and finished at a sensible time for the long run back to civilisation
He said that the code boards were designed to get people to stop as that was helping keep people away from bogey times.
It seemed to work okay however as some have stated, they could easily be misread if you rushed it or got the angle wrong.
I was clear until test 9, then cocked up and transcribed two wrong onto the timecard.
Tyres did seem to be a problem for some, was easy to kill the set on the driving axle. Cheap and cheerful may be in order next time.
A well run event though, made good use of the land available and finished at a sensible time for the long run back to civilisation
I did the event with a first time driver in a standard 1.2 Corsa.
Good runs, with only a few minor mistakes got us up to 3rd in Clubman and 19th O/A which was an fantastic result.
Great venue, quite 'coney' in places, but what else can you do with a site that large (2.8km runway)?
Well put together event. Would certainly do it again.
Lots of cars dropped by the wayside, some with tyre management issues, others with the normal mechanical gremlins, however there were a few ill navigators.
Results are up at MTC1.UK
Good runs, with only a few minor mistakes got us up to 3rd in Clubman and 19th O/A which was an fantastic result.
Great venue, quite 'coney' in places, but what else can you do with a site that large (2.8km runway)?
Well put together event. Would certainly do it again.
Lots of cars dropped by the wayside, some with tyre management issues, others with the normal mechanical gremlins, however there were a few ill navigators.
Results are up at MTC1.UK
We did the first one last year, it was well organised and run.
Some of the venues were a bit rough at around 0.8x Bovington (a new scale perhaps?).
We only got to half way before collecting a puncture and clutch failure at Bicester 2.
Some different venues this year I believe, looking forwards to it.
Some of the venues were a bit rough at around 0.8x Bovington (a new scale perhaps?).
We only got to half way before collecting a puncture and clutch failure at Bicester 2.
Some different venues this year I believe, looking forwards to it.
The Exmoor Targa was brilliant.
Three forest tests run twice. The tracks were in good condition, very slippery in places too.
And then over to Porlock toll road for 4 runs in total. Also quite slippery under the trees but dry and quick up the top.
All run to time, great marshals, fab weather.
Pretty much a trouble free event from my side. although we had an O2 sensor break free from the exhaust before lunch, a baked bean tin and some metal tie wraps applied during lunch fixed that enough to continue.
Looking forward to Rushmoor next. A compact event but quite technical.
Roll on 2025.
Three forest tests run twice. The tracks were in good condition, very slippery in places too.
And then over to Porlock toll road for 4 runs in total. Also quite slippery under the trees but dry and quick up the top.
All run to time, great marshals, fab weather.
Pretty much a trouble free event from my side. although we had an O2 sensor break free from the exhaust before lunch, a baked bean tin and some metal tie wraps applied during lunch fixed that enough to continue.
Looking forward to Rushmoor next. A compact event but quite technical.
Roll on 2025.
It is a good event, short but decent tests with enough variety to keep you on your toes.
Was good to see many younger / non bloke competitors out having fun.
We had a blast, a few too many mistakes to be in contention. Apologies to the marshal about cone 7 - it went a fair way.
Some of the rougher bits appeared to have been repaired since I was last there in 2022, making it easier on the standard cars.
Was good to see many younger / non bloke competitors out having fun.
We had a blast, a few too many mistakes to be in contention. Apologies to the marshal about cone 7 - it went a fair way.
Some of the rougher bits appeared to have been repaired since I was last there in 2022, making it easier on the standard cars.
thepawbroon said:
Still no competing since May, but now I've had both eyes sorted out and I can see!
I've been out marshalling on the Weald 12 Cars, and this week I'm heading down to Manston for a site recce - see if we can run the Kent Targa again next year.
They also held a Comp Safari there, there's some in car on YouTube and it looks like they might have opened up some track for us. Let's see!
Next competition will probably be the Far North Winter Classic Targa at the end of January, I'm going to concentrate on car prep and keep marshalling on the Weald 12 Cars.
Thank you for your service I've been out marshalling on the Weald 12 Cars, and this week I'm heading down to Manston for a site recce - see if we can run the Kent Targa again next year.
They also held a Comp Safari there, there's some in car on YouTube and it looks like they might have opened up some track for us. Let's see!
Next competition will probably be the Far North Winter Classic Targa at the end of January, I'm going to concentrate on car prep and keep marshalling on the Weald 12 Cars.
Manston was good this year, was out with a first timer, he had a great day out. Would be good to go back.
Would love to do the Far North, but just doesn't work logistically.
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