2023 rallying thread (WRC, ERC, national and historics)

2023 rallying thread (WRC, ERC, national and historics)

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egomeister

6,759 posts

266 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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Ardennes92 said:
Not sure how much time he gets in the cars or if he was really trying; bit of a mare for Kalle but at least the championship looks more like a match than it really is.
JML hadn't driven the car in any meaningful sense before his pre-event test. For sure he wasn't pushing to the limit, but he wasn't just out for a Sunday drive either. It was quite entertaining to see him back out!

Maxdecel

1,354 posts

36 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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Anyone else think Elfyn appeared to have a new found confidence ? In interviews and his driving, on the coverage I've seen it looked so precise & controlled despite setting 10 fastest times, winning by quite a margin and taking the power stage.
He obviously felt at one with the car https://www.crash.net/wrc/news/1033019/1/winning-r...
That's how it seemed.
Well done Elfyn.

Captain Obvious

5,719 posts

209 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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Hopefully this event does wonders for Taka and Elfyn. I think if Kalle was still in the event he'd have been 30s to a minute ahead of Elfyn though so it's worth keeping in mind that he won by others not finishing as opposed to winning because he had the outright speed.

Greece is going to be a tough one for Kalle, leading the pack where it's going to be a heavy penalty to be first on the road.

Maxdecel

1,354 posts

36 months

Sunday 6th August 2023
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That's been suggested by pundits in reports I saw, the consensus was he'd be in a battle with him; That's quite a step up by Elfyn, I hope it continues.
He's often said he didn't feel the car suited him, maybe he's turned a corner?

Captain Obvious

5,719 posts

209 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Maxdecel said:
That's been suggested by pundits in reports I saw, the consensus was he'd be in a battle with him
We'll never know but Kalle had 5 seconds on Elfyn up to that point and was winning every stage despite being at the disadvantage of leading the pack. Given both their performance over the last 2 years I struggle to see how Elfyn would have been able to keep up. Of course it'd be in all of our interests if Elfyn has suddenly found another level in his performance as we'd love to see him keeping Kalle honest!

In other news Seb Ogier confirmed he's participating in Greece!

df76

3,713 posts

281 months

Monday 7th August 2023
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Thought it was one of Elfyn’s best performances. All the focus and pressure on him, and it was a totally flawless weekend. Can’t tell what would have happened if Rovenpera stayed on the road, but that’s just “what ifs”. Can’t see the title changing hands, but should make the rest of the season slightly more interesting.

fttm

3,765 posts

138 months

Sunday 13th August 2023
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Great time in Cork last weekend, weather not too bad just a shame the mileage got depleted on Sunday, shame for Evans anyhow. JML wins the Lahti Historic yet again today , wonder how many times that is now ?

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,522 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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so it's now called Rally TV.

wonder if it will be any better?

ArnageWRC

2,105 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
so it's now called Rally TV.

wonder if it will be any better?
If it's still the same people involved, then probably not. And once again not addressing the issues the WRC faces.......

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,522 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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ArnageWRC said:
If it's still the same people involved, then probably not. And once again not addressing the issues the WRC faces.......
Hermes > Evri ?

Ranger 6

7,086 posts

252 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
so it's now called Rally TV.

wonder if it will be any better?
What's called Rally TV?

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,522 posts

226 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Ranger 6 said:
What's, called Rally TV?
not as far as I am aware?

GravelBen

15,778 posts

233 months

Wednesday 16th August 2023
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Ranger 6 said:
What's called Rally TV?
WRC+ live streaming platform (which was also being used for ERC coverage via their own website) has been rebranded as 'Rally TV', I presume with everything accessed through the same website now. And Rallycross too.

I'll be watching some of this weekends ERC round so I guess I'll find out then if anything significant has changed.

Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 17th August 07:10

Ranger 6

7,086 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th August 2023
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Thanks Ben

ArnageWRC

2,105 posts

162 months

Friday 18th August 2023
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ERC - Barum Rally Zlin; one of the classics of the ERC
BRC - Modern Tyres Ulster Rally

fttm

3,765 posts

138 months

Saturday 19th August 2023
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Ulster looking sort of predictable , shame Evans went out on SS2 damn it . Dismal weather and wiper failure seems the cause prior to hitting the wall .

Edited by fttm on Saturday 19th August 02:48

ArnageWRC

2,105 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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Fourmaux wins, and makes it 4/4 in the BRC; though there are rumours that's it for him this season. The final round is a 'double points' so he can be over hauled for the title.

Looks like Kopecky is going to win another Barum Rally Zlin; championship leader, Paddon out after ripping his right rear off......

DelicaL400

518 posts

114 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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I heard the BRC contributed 6 entries? And only 2 in the top class? When will MSUK stop this embarrassment?! It's clear that competitors aren't interested.

ArnageWRC

2,105 posts

162 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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I'm glad somebody else brought this up, as I've seen it mentioned elsewhere. There were hardly any mainland drivers going over to Ulster......

I think at the moment, most UK drivers are just happy with a one day 45 mile event. Anything else costs more and/or requires time off work........And the BRC isn't what they want.....

I really have no idea what the solution is......

thepawbroon

1,164 posts

187 months

Sunday 20th August 2023
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ArnageWRC said:
I'm glad somebody else brought this up, as I've seen it mentioned elsewhere. There were hardly any mainland drivers going over to Ulster......

I think at the moment, most UK drivers are just happy with a one day 45 mile event. Anything else costs more and/or requires time off work........And the BRC isn't what they want.....

I really have no idea what the solution is......
I've no idea either, but I observe that the Protyre BTRDA tarmac (2+ days inc recce) and SRC (6 Forest 1 day rallies and 2 closed road 2 day inc recce) are both well supported.

It seems that they both have a good set up where the crews, organisers, sponsors, locals and media are well integrated.

I think the BTRDA Forest champ still gets lots of crews?

Both Mull and Rali Ceredigion have attracted less-than-full entries so far. I reckon Ceredigion will be well-supported financially without full reliance on entry fees. For Mull, I wouldn't be sure that their current entry level is sustainable.

So - things are patchy all over. Who knows where it's going?