Low mileage used Taycans
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I’m looking at getting a Taycan, around 3 years old, CT or ST. I have a list of preferred options but of course it’s not always possible to get everything with a used car.
There seem to be a fair few around at that age with very low mileage (<10k) and occasionally a higher number of users (one I saw, at an OPC, 2023, had about 7k miles and 3 owners).
I’m aware that there’s a bit of a question mark over reliability, from some quarters. That’s not putting me off in itself, but I’m wondering whether the cars with this sort of mileage/ownership history might be ones which have spent far too long in the workshop and/or been moved on more than once due to being troublesome?
I’ll probably be back with more questions, but in the meantime if anyone has a view on the above I’d appreciate it.
There seem to be a fair few around at that age with very low mileage (<10k) and occasionally a higher number of users (one I saw, at an OPC, 2023, had about 7k miles and 3 owners).
I’m aware that there’s a bit of a question mark over reliability, from some quarters. That’s not putting me off in itself, but I’m wondering whether the cars with this sort of mileage/ownership history might be ones which have spent far too long in the workshop and/or been moved on more than once due to being troublesome?
I’ll probably be back with more questions, but in the meantime if anyone has a view on the above I’d appreciate it.
I suspect it's more likely that Porsche registered the car for at least one of the owners.
Though could be someone who'd had issues/didn't get on with EVs.
If the cars you're looking at are in the OPC network, I'd ask them about the history - repairs will have been done in the Porsche network in all likelihood. You may get some flannel about GDPR...just walk if you're not comfy.
Though could be someone who'd had issues/didn't get on with EVs.
If the cars you're looking at are in the OPC network, I'd ask them about the history - repairs will have been done in the Porsche network in all likelihood. You may get some flannel about GDPR...just walk if you're not comfy.
Tarby said:
No prob if you whack on the 15 year Porsche extended warranty. However the range on these is notably poor especially among older ones and that will only worsen. A mate of mine struggles to get over 170miles in winter, is not uncommon.
Yes I’d get the warranty but then I don’t want to be without it for prolonged periods. Thanks re the range thing, I’m in an EV currently with probably nearer 300 mile range, 250 on the motorway realistically but I know the older Taycans are not as good. I don’t do long journeys regularly but I’d like to be able to get 200 fairly reliably. One of the options on my Must Have list is the Performance Battery which does increase it a bit.
-Cappo- said:
Yes I d get the warranty but then I don t want to be without it for prolonged periods.
Thanks re the range thing, I m in an EV currently with probably nearer 300 mile range, 250 on the motorway realistically but I know the older Taycans are not as good. I don t do long journeys regularly but I d like to be able to get 200 fairly reliably. One of the options on my Must Have list is the Performance Battery which does increase it a bit.
I get 180ish in winter in my 22 GTS (that has 42k miles on it).Thanks re the range thing, I m in an EV currently with probably nearer 300 mile range, 250 on the motorway realistically but I know the older Taycans are not as good. I don t do long journeys regularly but I d like to be able to get 200 fairly reliably. One of the options on my Must Have list is the Performance Battery which does increase it a bit.
210-220 in summer.
It has the worst wheels on it for range. And is driven without thought to economy.
Tarby said:
No prob if you whack on the 15 year Porsche extended warranty. However the range on these is notably poor especially among older ones and that will only worsen. A mate of mine struggles to get over 170miles in winter, is not uncommon.
You can have the warranty up to 15yrs like all Porsche but the battery warranty is only for 7yrs.Armitage.Shanks said:
You can have the warranty up to 15yrs like all Porsche but the battery warranty is only for 7yrs.
Ehh.. not quite true. 8 years factory cover. After that battery covered for faults up to age 15 if extend warranty (not mileage/age related degradation but faulty cells covered).I’d say the range/efficiency is a big problem….I remember back in the day the E60 M5 being panned because it only had a 200 mile range.
If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh…so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That’s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh…so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That’s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
Cheib said:
I d say the range/efficiency is a big problem .I remember back in the day the E60 M5 being panned because it only had a 200 mile range.
If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
As with all things, it depends.If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
And we're in the Porsche section... Since when did making financial sense matter?
Most people do less than 30 miles a day in their car.
Mine is topped up to 85% when I'm at home... I get some extra free slots from the nice (soon to be not as) people at Octopus and if I need more I bump charge at peak, which is still cheaper than fuel.
Even my old man has an EV now, so destination charging is easy.
Rarely I need something quick en route...yes, that's more expensive. Probably the same as fuel when comparing similar cars... But it's quick and easy.
And across all of this, the biggest thing I do not miss is visiting fuel pumps. If petrol/diesel didn't exist and you told people they would have to do that regularly, they'd think you were insane.
So is range an issue? Not really.
Towing? Yes. You ain't doing that in a Taycan though.
Doing over 150 miles a day? Ish... But that's over 30k miles a year. Less than 1% of drivers do that. I think it would be safe to say none are driving Taycans.
No off street parking? Will impact some, but again Taycan owners? Very edge. Less than half of households own any car in London.
My dog's about to die and is over 150 miles away and I must go now? Okey dokey.
Range anxiety is, in the very very very vast majority of circumstances, in the mind.
Murph7355 said:
Cheib said:
I d say the range/efficiency is a big problem .I remember back in the day the E60 M5 being panned because it only had a 200 mile range.
If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
As with all things, it depends.If you charge at home to get cheap electricity most people can only charge at 7 kWh so 35 kWh in the 5 hour cheap rate overnight charging. That s about 70 miles.
For anyone outside of company ownership the only way an EV makes financial sense is to charge at home.
And we're in the Porsche section... Since when did making financial sense matter?
Most people do less than 30 miles a day in their car.
Mine is topped up to 85% when I'm at home... I get some extra free slots from the nice (soon to be not as) people at Octopus and if I need more I bump charge at peak, which is still cheaper than fuel.
Even my old man has an EV now, so destination charging is easy.
Rarely I need something quick en route...yes, that's more expensive. Probably the same as fuel when comparing similar cars... But it's quick and easy.
And across all of this, the biggest thing I do not miss is visiting fuel pumps. If petrol/diesel didn't exist and you told people they would have to do that regularly, they'd think you were insane.
So is range an issue? Not really.
Towing? Yes. You ain't doing that in a Taycan though.
Doing over 150 miles a day? Ish... But that's over 30k miles a year. Less than 1% of drivers do that. I think it would be safe to say none are driving Taycans.
No off street parking? Will impact some, but again Taycan owners? Very edge. Less than half of households own any car in London.
My dog's about to die and is over 150 miles away and I must go now? Okey dokey.
Range anxiety is, in the very very very vast majority of circumstances, in the mind.
I’m not a range worrier, longest trip I’ve done in a day in my current EV was about 450 miles and that needed half an hour on a fast charger in the middle of the journey (and being prepared to run it down to 8%!), but that journey was a one-off really. I’d like to be able to get 200 miles done without recharging really as that would cover most family visits.
But my main concern on this thread was around (un)reliability and potential reasons for v low mileage cars to be hanging around.
But my main concern on this thread was around (un)reliability and potential reasons for v low mileage cars to be hanging around.
Murph7355 said:
Doing over 150 miles a day? Ish... But that's over 30k miles a year. Less than 1% of drivers do that. I think it would be safe to say none are driving Taycans.
Again EVangelists missing the point about range. It does not matter what the average mileage is. If you do ONE long trip a year that you could easily do in an ICE it will be more inconvenient in an EV with a very short range. It is a backward step based on using a current ICE.Now as a 3rd or 4th car perhaps an EV makes sense, but that is a different argument.
Tarby said:
Again EVangelists missing the point about range. It does not matter what the average mileage is. If you do ONE long trip a year that you could easily do in an ICE it will be more inconvenient in an EV with a very short range. It is a backward step based on using a current ICE.
Now as a 3rd or 4th car perhaps an EV makes sense, but that is a different argument.
Now as a 3rd or 4th car perhaps an EV makes sense, but that is a different argument.
I said:
My main concern on this thread was around (un)reliability and potential reasons for v low mileage cars to be hanging around.
Can we please just be adults and not add this to the 1001 other “EV good/bad, ICE good/bad” threads which already exist, otherwise I’ll just ask the mods to remove the whole thing. Porsches tend to have lower mileages in general, so I wouldn’t be put off with this concern. I’d try and get one with fewer owners and would hope that this is a good omen.
I had one for 5 years and 52K miles. In the last 2 years there were niggling problems with the car, but none related to the drivetrain. When I see them about I do still think that they look great compared to most EVs and they drive well.
I had one for 5 years and 52K miles. In the last 2 years there were niggling problems with the car, but none related to the drivetrain. When I see them about I do still think that they look great compared to most EVs and they drive well.
Grantstown said:
Porsches tend to have lower mileages in general, so I wouldn t be put off with this concern. I d try and get one with fewer owners and would hope that this is a good omen.
I had one for 5 years and 52K miles. In the last 2 years there were niggling problems with the car, but none related to the drivetrain. When I see them about I do still think that they look great compared to most EVs and they drive well.
Do you mind elaborating on what went wrong, ti oddly be a useful guide to help looking for a good one? (I'm really tempted by one when my EV6 GT gets to 4 years old, It's been great but I''ll be ready for a change by then)I had one for 5 years and 52K miles. In the last 2 years there were niggling problems with the car, but none related to the drivetrain. When I see them about I do still think that they look great compared to most EVs and they drive well.
Thanks so much
-Cappo- said:
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But my main concern on this thread was around (un)reliability and potential reasons for v low mileage cars to be hanging around.
Reliability-wise I think the usual stuff applies...the internet is full of people quick to moan and slow to praise.But my main concern on this thread was around (un)reliability and potential reasons for v low mileage cars to be hanging around.
Having said that...
The common issues now have fixes... brakes were a bit of a problem...new hoses, fluid and variously a s/w tweak sorted that. (Disappointing given the company's background, but hey ho).
Some battery cells caused issues...there's monitoring s/w for this and Porsche replace the cells or replace the pack depending on details. Am not sure this is as widespread as Internet noise might suggest, but it's definitely there.
Nav crashes on J1.1 cars. Fix just released for that.
A lot of the noise on these things was Porsche's lack of transparency and speed to rectify. It's not forgivable really, but they don't seem to be learning... And still sell product. More fool us.
If cars you are looking at are up to date on recalls and fixes/campaigns there's a very good chance the car will be fine now.
Mine also had a cracked panoroof...replaced under warranty. Known issue and down to fit IMO. Not heard of any doing this lately.
And the spring loaded adjusters in the cupholder fell off. Crap design. Warranty claim refused...couldn't be arsed arguing it as it took me 15mins and some old glue to fix myself in a way that it won't recur.
Owners/mileage I replied to earlier. Check the car out fully and ask the dealer the story
And ask here - I'm sure people will give input on shortlisted cars
I’m only a couple of months into ownership and haven’t experienced any issues other than the crashing nav which as Murph says now has a fix. Somewhat irritating to not be told at point of sale though.
Having discovered my PSCB’s are around £6.5k to replace I would suggest skipping them and opting for a standard setup. Thankfully mine are mint and I don’t do many miles.
Note that the approved used warranty is “up to”
2 years as it runs with the cars age not sale date, so mine came with 21 months which I knew before purchasing.
Coming from an EQC which had ample range I do find the performance battery and improved efficiency is nice to have and I managed Cambridge to Somerset in one in mid Feb (193 miles).
I also got caught out with a schoolboy error by misunderstanding “comfort access” with “comfort entry”. I have the 18-way memory seats with “comfort access” as the seat moves back automatically to aid access/egress. “Comfort entry” is keyless entry and although the previous owner had it, it’s a onetime subscription feature so a change of ownership removes it and Porsche charge £1190 to reactivate.
Having discovered my PSCB’s are around £6.5k to replace I would suggest skipping them and opting for a standard setup. Thankfully mine are mint and I don’t do many miles.
Note that the approved used warranty is “up to”
2 years as it runs with the cars age not sale date, so mine came with 21 months which I knew before purchasing.
Coming from an EQC which had ample range I do find the performance battery and improved efficiency is nice to have and I managed Cambridge to Somerset in one in mid Feb (193 miles).
I also got caught out with a schoolboy error by misunderstanding “comfort access” with “comfort entry”. I have the 18-way memory seats with “comfort access” as the seat moves back automatically to aid access/egress. “Comfort entry” is keyless entry and although the previous owner had it, it’s a onetime subscription feature so a change of ownership removes it and Porsche charge £1190 to reactivate.
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