Taycan Sport Turismo or Cross Turismo real world range?
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All,I am considering one of these on our salary sacrifice scheme we are close to launching for used vehicles.
It would be the first generation Taycan so I am just trying to get an idea on range of 2022/2023 cars probably the base or 4 or 4s model.
Does anyone own one and can give me real world range please?
It would be the first generation Taycan so I am just trying to get an idea on range of 2022/2023 cars probably the base or 4 or 4s model.
Does anyone own one and can give me real world range please?
It varies a lot dependent on weather and driving style.
With the performance plus battery (93kwh) you'll get real world between 175 (dead of winter, big wheeled GTS driven enthusiastically) to 300 miles (reports of smaller wheeled variants in summer over on the Taycan forum).
My 175 noted above is currently 220-230 in our current summer weather.
It's worth stressing that the charging speed of the Taycan makes topping up en route a piece of cake, and I've yet to have any issues doing so when needed (remember too that even 175 miles is 3hrs driving).
The key thing you have to be is really honest with yourself about usage/mileage. Having owned the car for nearly a year, I would trade the odd charge en route on a longer journey for the convenience of never visiting a petrol station at all other times, every single time. (This does depend on home charging access).
We even used ours for a Cornwall holiday. A journey we never expected to use it for, but that worked so well that my OH's concerns over EVs evaporated.
For the very vast majority of use cases, EV use is a psychological hurdle rather than a practical one. Certainly where the better EVs (battery/range/charging capability) are concerned.
With the performance plus battery (93kwh) you'll get real world between 175 (dead of winter, big wheeled GTS driven enthusiastically) to 300 miles (reports of smaller wheeled variants in summer over on the Taycan forum).
My 175 noted above is currently 220-230 in our current summer weather.
It's worth stressing that the charging speed of the Taycan makes topping up en route a piece of cake, and I've yet to have any issues doing so when needed (remember too that even 175 miles is 3hrs driving).
The key thing you have to be is really honest with yourself about usage/mileage. Having owned the car for nearly a year, I would trade the odd charge en route on a longer journey for the convenience of never visiting a petrol station at all other times, every single time. (This does depend on home charging access).
We even used ours for a Cornwall holiday. A journey we never expected to use it for, but that worked so well that my OH's concerns over EVs evaporated.
For the very vast majority of use cases, EV use is a psychological hurdle rather than a practical one. Certainly where the better EVs (battery/range/charging capability) are concerned.
Largely agree with Murph, mine is a 4S with 21 inch wheels and the larger battery. In winter I get @180 miles in summer more like 220, but much depends on driving style. I wouldn’t say that public charging is a piece of cake, it requires planning and I’ve had the odd issue but as I charge from home for 90% of my journeys it’s not a big issue. Great car and generally good experience for me, with a few reliability issues. I thing the next generation Taycan will be a cracker.
I broadly leave planning to the satnav.
If I prefer one network over another, I simply add that as a "stopover" and it sorts it out.
The maps show how many charge points are available out of a total, and the satnav will adapt accordingly. You can also tune how much charge you want to be left with at the charge point and at the destination.
I admittedly haven't travelled the length and breadth of the country, but have travelled from the East of England to South and West Yorkshire, to Cheshire and to Cornwall.
If you're very regularly doing varied routes of extended mileage (200 miles plus) then maybe it could be a challenge. But I honestly doubt it (and would likely use Zapp Map in those circumstances).
Reliability is covered extensively on the Taycan forum. Do a load of research over there would be my advice
If I prefer one network over another, I simply add that as a "stopover" and it sorts it out.
The maps show how many charge points are available out of a total, and the satnav will adapt accordingly. You can also tune how much charge you want to be left with at the charge point and at the destination.
I admittedly haven't travelled the length and breadth of the country, but have travelled from the East of England to South and West Yorkshire, to Cheshire and to Cornwall.
If you're very regularly doing varied routes of extended mileage (200 miles plus) then maybe it could be a challenge. But I honestly doubt it (and would likely use Zapp Map in those circumstances).
Reliability is covered extensively on the Taycan forum. Do a load of research over there would be my advice
I would worry more about the relability of it than the range, in the just less than 2 years and about 9,000 miles I owned my Cross Turismo it spent about 6 months at the dealer being repaired.
It had to be recovered by Porsche assist 3 times in those 2 years and i took it in myself for recalls and repairs 2-3 times also.
I certainly wouldn't entertain owning one without OPC warranty, most of the time that will only get you into a hire car from Enterprise when it's sat at the dealer waiting for parts.
It had to be recovered by Porsche assist 3 times in those 2 years and i took it in myself for recalls and repairs 2-3 times also.
I certainly wouldn't entertain owning one without OPC warranty, most of the time that will only get you into a hire car from Enterprise when it's sat at the dealer waiting for parts.
On the original question, I would use A Better Route Planner to simulate drives that you have in mind. That takes into account chargers, their charge speed, the car’s charge speed, and also speed limits on the way seeing as the speed has a big impact on range. It’s going to give you the best idea of what to expect. Also easy to compare with other cars as well.
Thanks all.
You are referring to this. Took me a minute to figure it’s actually called that. Many thanks
https://abetterrouteplanner.com/
You are referring to this. Took me a minute to figure it’s actually called that. Many thanks
https://abetterrouteplanner.com/
I took delivery of a six month old 4S Cross about 4 weeks ago. We've been running a Mini EV for the past two years and 30k miles which will stay with us so we not completely new to the EV range game. In the Taycan I'm getting about 280 at present on longer runs. A 202 return trip to Ludlow the other week with 50:50 motorway and A roads left me with 32% charge when I got home. The range-o-meter is as pessimistic as the Mini, I've not see it go past 230-240 on a full charge as yet but the reality is much further as long as your happy with a 75mph motorway cruise. As someone else says it's really obvious the impact of travelling faster or prodding the throttle harder in an EV, I don't think any different to our petrol cars but the range will drop significantly if you are cruising at higher speeds.
I think one of the things that gets talked about very little with EVs is their efficiency, the Taycan is getting 2.8-3.0 miles/KW at present, the mini is more like 4.5-5.0 so at this time of year is pushing out 140+ miles with a battery way less than half the size of the Taycan.
Really enjoying it so far and my take from this thread is anywhere between 220 and 300 depending on how you're going to drive it! I'll be factoring in a 20% drop at sub zero temps if it's similar to the Mini.
I think one of the things that gets talked about very little with EVs is their efficiency, the Taycan is getting 2.8-3.0 miles/KW at present, the mini is more like 4.5-5.0 so at this time of year is pushing out 140+ miles with a battery way less than half the size of the Taycan.
Really enjoying it so far and my take from this thread is anywhere between 220 and 300 depending on how you're going to drive it! I'll be factoring in a 20% drop at sub zero temps if it's similar to the Mini.
Out of curiosity anyone driven one in Germany at high speeds, with lots of accelerating (but also lots of braking, which I assume helps recharge it)? Just curious how it would do on a say 300km trip at say 200-250 kp/h for large parts of the journey. I am not in the market, so just curious for real world experience.
MDL111 said:
Out of curiosity anyone driven one in Germany at high speeds, with lots of accelerating (but also lots of braking, which I assume helps recharge it)? Just curious how it would do on a say 300km trip at say 200-250 kp/h for large parts of the journey. I am not in the market, so just curious for real world experience.
Braking does recharge but it is inefficient, albeit much better than wasting kinetic energy as heat as happens in ICE. So cruising / coasting most efficient. Regenerative braking just makes the best of a bad lot.Not driven a Taycan at those speeds but this may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLFXWPy_Uw
Discombobulate said:
MDL111 said:
Out of curiosity anyone driven one in Germany at high speeds, with lots of accelerating (but also lots of braking, which I assume helps recharge it)? Just curious how it would do on a say 300km trip at say 200-250 kp/h for large parts of the journey. I am not in the market, so just curious for real world experience.
Braking does recharge but it is inefficient, albeit much better than wasting kinetic energy as heat as happens in ICE. So cruising / coasting most efficient. Regenerative braking just makes the best of a bad lot.Not driven a Taycan at those speeds but this may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeLFXWPy_Uw
Thanks all. Good news the range is pessimistic.
I cruise on the motorway at 70 so won’t be having a heavy foot.
The car looks excellent value now. The one is have seen is 65k and done 2k miles.
Need to firm up who we go with for SS and that I can do this. Had Porsches before but will be my first electric.
I cruise on the motorway at 70 so won’t be having a heavy foot.
The car looks excellent value now. The one is have seen is 65k and done 2k miles.
Need to firm up who we go with for SS and that I can do this. Had Porsches before but will be my first electric.
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