ST/CT in 4S/GTS with 20"/21" - real-world range advice?

[kmpowell]

Without wishing to get into Taycan depreciation discussions or VFM etc, I am simply after real-world range experiences of a ST or CT (preferably in either 4S or GTS flavour).

My personal situation requires me to do a weekly round trip of 198 miles. 180 of those miles being on actual motorway (M25 and M40) and 18 miles on a 50mph A road from/into the village where I live.

I would like to be able to do that whole trip in one go, without having to delay when I get to my destination and recharge. In essence leave my home with a full charge, get to destination, quick turn around, and back home where I will put it back on charge.

I've discounted the Turbo S and Turbo, as the Porsche range tool says it'll never give me more than 190miles when I plug in my worse-case parameters (5%/5%/90%, 5deg, Eco A/C). Which leaves me with a 4S CT/ST on 20's (220miles estimated) 4S CT/ST on 21's (205-210 est), or a ST GTS on 20's (209 miles estimated).

How accurate are the calculator figures v real world?
How much do the 21's hammer range on the motorway v 20's?
When the temp really drops in the depth of winter to zero, I am assuming I'll need to charge?

All thoughts and experiences are most welcome

Edited by kmpowell on Monday 18th December 19:29

[phib]

Turbo on 20’s after 34,000 miles, the biggest difference in range is 20’s v21’s, my turbo S ST (with roof rails) is c 210 in comparison.

They do get more range the more you drive them, my commute is similar motorway / cross country but 133 miles

Phib

[findtomdotcom]

I have had two Taycan CTs, both 4S and both on 21s. You should see 220-245 miles on a charge.

[Sport_Turismo_GTS]

findtomdotcom said:

I have had two Taycan CTs, both 4S and both on 21s. You should see 220-245 miles on a charge.

Based on my experience with a GTS, that seems feasible, depending on how you’re driving it.

[Murph7355]

I wouldn't get that far in my GTS at the moment.

I reckon I get 180-190 tops.

The caveat being I have yet to drive it to try and get more. Haven't used range mode, have made use of the performance, kids do try and cook themselves with the seats and aircon.

The saving grace is that it charges up really quickly. On a trip of that length, even I'd only need 10mins. If you're stopping somewhere with a charger, a quick stop might do.

I might try and squeeze more out of it on my next trip

[Digga]

Good point on charging en route. If you can find a fast charger near a coffee stop, then by the time you’ve had even a very brief pit stop, you’re way up on range.

My Taycan 4, at 81% says 193 miles range right now. Seems about right.

[GTS440]

I owned both CT and ST 4S for 18 months in total.

Both cars had 21s and best range was 255 miles in summer, worst about 190 in deep winter .

[kmpowell]

Thanks all - some varying numbers there, but numbers that seem to be in line with Porsche's range calculator.

I think I've come to the conclusion that the 20's are an absolute must given my personal circumstance. Shame, because that narrows down the choice hugely, especially when you also add on my ACC must-have.

[findtomdotcom]

It would be worth getting one on demo for a few days and trying the route. I would bet a dealer would be more than happy to give you a car to try.

These are fantastic cars.

[phib]

kmpowell said:

Thanks all - some varying numbers there, but numbers that seem to be in line with Porsche's range calculator.

I think I've come to the conclusion that the 20's are an absolute must given my personal circumstance. Shame, because that narrows down the choice hugely, especially when you also add on my ACC must-have.

If it helps at all, I have a set of Turbo 20's sat in my garage, would happily swap for another set of 21's.They were purely my spare set on my old turbo as there was a time when it was 6 months wait for a spare wheel !!!

Phib

[Sport_Turismo_GTS]

phib said:

If it helps at all, I have a set of Turbo 20's sat in my garage, would happily swap for another set of 21's.They were purely my spare set on my old turbo as there was a time when it was 6 months wait for a spare wheel !!!

Phib

I’m potentially looking for a set of 20” for winter wheels if you are selling.

[Sport_Turismo_GTS]

kmpowell said:

How accurate are the calculator figures v real world?
How much do the 21's hammer range on the motorway v 20's?
When the temp really drops in the depth of winter to zero, I am assuming I'll need to charge?
thoughts and experiences are most welcome

One thing I have found is that, in conjunction with the Sat Nav, the battery predictor is pretty accurate, providing you keep to the same driving style as you’ve done previously - I’ve always ended up at the destination (or intermediate charging point) with pretty close to the battery level predicted.

Although I try not to tempt fate, this gives some confidence when driving and means I don’t have to allow for a massive contingency buffer.

In contrast, I’ve heard from colleagues with other EV cars that they find it very hard to plan on longer rates as the range can be quite unpredictable?

Edited by Sport_Turismo_GTS on Tuesday 19th December 12:37

[Digga]

One thing I do find a bit odd/offputting is that Porsche NAV/journey planner always seems to want to route me via OPC charging network. I guess it is because they are fast?

[findtomdotcom]

Digga said:

One thing I do find a bit odd/offputting is that Porsche NAV/journey planner always seems to want to route me via OPC charging network. I guess it is because they are fast?

In my experience they are fast and reliable but expensive…. Porsche were adding a time fee on top of the cost of electricity.

I found using IONITY was the best compromise. Taycan owners did get a reasonable discount too, but that’s probably been withdrawn now?

[garystoybox]

findtomdotcom said:

In my experience they are fast and reliable but expensive…. Porsche were adding a time fee on top of the cost of electricity.

I found using IONITY was the best compromise. Taycan owners did get a reasonable discount too, but that’s probably been withdrawn now?

No, it’s still available at 30p per Kw- just used yesterday.

[Triple Six]

kmpowell said:

How accurate are the calculator figures v real world?

We have a 4S (performance battery) and have done close to 50k, made up of a daily commute of at least 70mls. We see around 220 miles range in the cold weather, 250 miles range in the summer.

I find the indicated miles are realistic for real-world driving, I don't hoof it everywhere, but I don't hang about either.

Range anxiety is a thing, though; even when you know you are going to make it.

[Murph7355]

Digga said:

One thing I do find a bit odd/offputting is that Porsche NAV/journey planner always seems to want to route me via OPC charging network. I guess it is because they are fast?

I think you can uncheck an option to prevent that.

The nav is pretty good, but small tweaks would make it much better (avoiding certain providers, prioritising them and being able to skip to the next or previous option easily etc).

[Sport_Turismo_GTS]

garystoybox said:

No, it’s still available at 30p per Kw- just used yesterday.

I think it’s this discounted rate for the first 3 years isn’t it (or is it just 12 months)?

Edited by Sport_Turismo_GTS on Tuesday 19th December 22:17

[Murph7355]

Sport_Turismo_GTS said:

I think it’s this discounted rare for the first 3 years isn’t it (or is it just 12 months)?

3yrs.

[HoHoHo]

I’ve found the range accurate, I’ve got the Porsche card and that works perfectly around the UK and Europe, not only on IONITY but other charging networks as well. You’re billed through Porsche and it all works.

My range is around 190 in winter, 250 in July so an average of about 225 or so year round.

The planning on a journey is spot on, I never use a Porsche garage and I’ve learnt that it all works. You know when you’re going to stop, for how long, how many chargers are there, how many are in use etc and the car gets itself ready to be charged as quickly as possible.

Sure things can go wrong, a charger may fail but that’s rare in my experience rather than the norm. Whilst there’s reluctance to buy and run an EV I’m happy, means there are less around to hog the chargers!

Edited by HoHoHo on Wednesday 20th December 05:21