Taycan 4S Cross Turismo
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Order placed this morning.
Having never owned a Porsche or an Electric car this will be quite a departure for me.
Up until Wednesday this week I had no interest in electric vehicles and was quite happy with my 2017 Audi S6 Avant I'd bought new as my daily. Then I saw Matt Watsons review of the Taycan Wagon on YouTube. A quick conversation with our accountant and the benefits of running fully electric vehicles as company cars for director/owners compared to paying privately for our own vehicles was so clear that this become an absolute no brainer.
So we booked a test drive at Porsche Tonbridge this morning and ordered a pair.
The test drive was interesting, the salesman drove a Taycan Turbo, myself and my business partner drove the 4S behind him. There were a couple of times during the test drive that were full acceleration moments entering a dual carriageway, the Turbo went, we followed. When we got back we asked if he was giving it full beans, which he was. The one thing that became apparent straight away was the price delta between the 4S and the Turbo doesn't relate to the perfomance differential. It's not a £20K or so step up. Even the sales guy said the 4S was the sweet spot, it's still laugh out loud fast.
Now the wait begins till early next year.
My business partner is going with the Gentian Blue.
6+35 business lease through Porsche at circa £1,100 + vat per month - TBC as we tinkered with the specs this morning.
So this is what I ordered:-
Having never owned a Porsche or an Electric car this will be quite a departure for me.
Up until Wednesday this week I had no interest in electric vehicles and was quite happy with my 2017 Audi S6 Avant I'd bought new as my daily. Then I saw Matt Watsons review of the Taycan Wagon on YouTube. A quick conversation with our accountant and the benefits of running fully electric vehicles as company cars for director/owners compared to paying privately for our own vehicles was so clear that this become an absolute no brainer.
So we booked a test drive at Porsche Tonbridge this morning and ordered a pair.
The test drive was interesting, the salesman drove a Taycan Turbo, myself and my business partner drove the 4S behind him. There were a couple of times during the test drive that were full acceleration moments entering a dual carriageway, the Turbo went, we followed. When we got back we asked if he was giving it full beans, which he was. The one thing that became apparent straight away was the price delta between the 4S and the Turbo doesn't relate to the perfomance differential. It's not a £20K or so step up. Even the sales guy said the 4S was the sweet spot, it's still laugh out loud fast.
Now the wait begins till early next year.
My business partner is going with the Gentian Blue.
6+35 business lease through Porsche at circa £1,100 + vat per month - TBC as we tinkered with the specs this morning.
So this is what I ordered:-
Nice spec 21ATS. I'm also getting a 4S Cross Turismo which should get here in July and like you taking advantage of the tax perks through the business. I thought about paying through a PCP but also considering using Porsche Business lease. With the latter how do you get treated for tax purposes as i assume you can't get the 100% First year WDA this way whereas with PCP you can.
Taffy66 said:
Nice spec 21ATS. I'm also getting a 4S Cross Turismo which should get here in July and like you taking advantage of the tax perks through the business. I thought about paying through a PCP but also considering using Porsche Business lease. With the latter how do you get treated for tax purposes as i assume you can't get the 100% First year WDA this way whereas with PCP you can.
I'm yet to have a full conversation about the VAT side of it with my accountant, so how we fund it might change.At this point I'm not sure if we can claim all the vat back on the monthlies or only 50% due to there being personal use.
Whatever way it's so much cheaper than what we're doing now it would hav e been daft not to.
Dealer said more than 90% of Taycan sales are business, they just make so much sense. No doubt that will change in the future!
R8_Matt said:
Exciting.
I ordered one too: first EV and first Porsche. My order was in March and build is October. Happy Days!
I ordered one too: first EV and first Porsche. My order was in March and build is October. Happy Days!
Taffy66 said:
Nice spec 21ATS. I'm also getting a 4S Cross Turismo which should get here in July and like you taking advantage of the tax perks through the business. I thought about paying through a PCP but also considering using Porsche Business lease. With the latter how do you get treated for tax purposes as i assume you can't get the 100% First year WDA this way whereas with PCP you can.
Post up the spec pictures guys, it's nice too see what others have gone for.
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Congrats, great choice! Similar to my specs...
I’ve spent most of the day doing the maths. Hopefully I’ve got it right...
Going to try and get a drive next week, happy with what you’ve said about the performance difference between the 4S and Turbo. I clearly want a turbo - but it stops being so cheap as with some options it’s knocking on the door of £125!
I’d love to see your specs. I’ve gone relatively light, coming in at about £100k.
I’m currently undecided between Carmine red or Gentian Blue.
Here is the code for my blue spec - PMVKF8N2
What’s your eta?
I’ve spent most of the day doing the maths. Hopefully I’ve got it right...
Going to try and get a drive next week, happy with what you’ve said about the performance difference between the 4S and Turbo. I clearly want a turbo - but it stops being so cheap as with some options it’s knocking on the door of £125!
I’d love to see your specs. I’ve gone relatively light, coming in at about £100k.
I’m currently undecided between Carmine red or Gentian Blue.
Here is the code for my blue spec - PMVKF8N2
What’s your eta?
I was around the £100K mark, I'll post up the code tomorrow when I'm back in the office, it's on my email in there.
Delivery for us is realistically early next year. Our man at Porsche Tonbridge explained that dealership had taken orders for 24 new cars last week, 15 of which were Taycan's (of which 7 were Turismo's) The other 9 orders they took were spread over every other model. SO you can see how build slots are being sucked up at a rate of knots.
I binned the passenger screen, it wasn't in the car we test drove and I saw little advantage of having it. There were already more screens than I knew what to do with. In fact it took us 20 minutes to figure out how to turn the radio on. I'm really not a fan of touch screen, but right now it seems to be the future. I'd prefer a few buttons for the more important functions then touch screen for the stuff you only change when stationary.
My big ticket item is the wheels, I'd prefer smaller than 21" (for ride quality) but they all just look rubbish, so I went with the options. The test car rode so well on 21's I was impressed and every review I've watched so far has said the Turismo is softer still - perfect for a daily.
Second big ticket item is rear wheel steering, it's a big car and I currently live with a 2017 Audi C7 S6 Avant which is almost the same size. Rear wheel steering will make parking a lot easier and it comes with the enhanced steering at slow speed.
I didn't like the "sound" in the test car, we asked him to turn it off and found it much nicer without.
Panoramic roof was a must for me as is surround view cameras.
I like the no cost option chalk beige interior as it tones nicely with the Cherry paint.
It's shame they don't offer that lovely rich metallic orange colour they do on the Panamera, I would have gone for that if it was a possibility, it would look great with the black trim.
The thing with Porsche though, we may may moan about the options, but unlike Audi or Mercedes you aren't restricted to bundles or packages where you have a whole load of stuff you don't want just to get the one item you did. You spec your car how you want it, after all it's a contract hire deal, it's being handed back and there's no thought whatsoever of speccing it for a good residual.
Oh and I despise privacy glass, so being "allowed" to buy a premium car without it is a big tick in my book.
Delivery for us is realistically early next year. Our man at Porsche Tonbridge explained that dealership had taken orders for 24 new cars last week, 15 of which were Taycan's (of which 7 were Turismo's) The other 9 orders they took were spread over every other model. SO you can see how build slots are being sucked up at a rate of knots.
I binned the passenger screen, it wasn't in the car we test drove and I saw little advantage of having it. There were already more screens than I knew what to do with. In fact it took us 20 minutes to figure out how to turn the radio on. I'm really not a fan of touch screen, but right now it seems to be the future. I'd prefer a few buttons for the more important functions then touch screen for the stuff you only change when stationary.
My big ticket item is the wheels, I'd prefer smaller than 21" (for ride quality) but they all just look rubbish, so I went with the options. The test car rode so well on 21's I was impressed and every review I've watched so far has said the Turismo is softer still - perfect for a daily.
Second big ticket item is rear wheel steering, it's a big car and I currently live with a 2017 Audi C7 S6 Avant which is almost the same size. Rear wheel steering will make parking a lot easier and it comes with the enhanced steering at slow speed.
I didn't like the "sound" in the test car, we asked him to turn it off and found it much nicer without.
Panoramic roof was a must for me as is surround view cameras.
I like the no cost option chalk beige interior as it tones nicely with the Cherry paint.
It's shame they don't offer that lovely rich metallic orange colour they do on the Panamera, I would have gone for that if it was a possibility, it would look great with the black trim.
The thing with Porsche though, we may may moan about the options, but unlike Audi or Mercedes you aren't restricted to bundles or packages where you have a whole load of stuff you don't want just to get the one item you did. You spec your car how you want it, after all it's a contract hire deal, it's being handed back and there's no thought whatsoever of speccing it for a good residual.
Oh and I despise privacy glass, so being "allowed" to buy a premium car without it is a big tick in my book.
Edited by 21ATS on Sunday 23 May 23:00
Edited by 21ATS on Sunday 23 May 23:17
21ATS said:
I was around the £100K mark, I'll post up the code tomorrow when I'm back in the office, it's on my email in there.
Delivery for us is realistically early next year. Our man at Porsche Tonbridge explained that dealership had taken orders for 24 new cars last week, 15 of which were Taycan's (of which 7 were Turismo's) The other 9 orders they took were spread over every other model. SO you can see how build slots are being sucked up at a rate of knots.
I binned the passenger screen, it wasn't in the car we test drove and I saw little advantage of having it. There were already more screens than I knew what to do with. In fact it took us 20 minutes to figure out how to turn the radio on. I'm really not a fan of touch screen, but right now it seems to be the future. I'd prefer a few buttons for the more important functions then touch screen for the stuff you only change when stationary.
My big ticket item is the wheels, I'd prefer smaller than 21" (for ride quality) but they all just look rubbish, so I went with the options. The test car rode so well on 21's I was impressed and every review I've watched so far has said the Turismo is softer still - perfect for a daily.
Second big ticket item is rear wheel steering, it's a big car and I currently live with a 2017 Audi C7 S6 Avant which is almost the same size. Rear wheel steering will make parking a lot easier and it comes with the enhanced steering at slow speed.
I didn't like the "sound" in the test car, we asked him to turn it off and found it much nicer without.
Panoramic roof was a must for me as is surround view cameras.
I like the no cost option chalk beige interior as it tones nicely with the Cherry paint.
It's shame they don't offer that lovely rich metallic orange colour they do on the Panamera, I would have gone for that if it was a possibility, it would look great with the black trim.
The thing with Porsche though, we may may moan about the options, but unlike Audi or Mercedes you aren't restricted to bundles or packages where you have a whole load of stuff you don't want just to get the one item you did. You spec your car how you want it, after all it's a contract hire deal, it's being handed back and there's no thought whatsoever of speccing it for a good residual.
Oh and I despise privacy glass, so being "allowed" to buy a premium car without it is a big tick in my book.
Yes agreed, it’s annoying as you watch the price soar as you click through the list - but as you say it’s good to be able to make these small changes.Delivery for us is realistically early next year. Our man at Porsche Tonbridge explained that dealership had taken orders for 24 new cars last week, 15 of which were Taycan's (of which 7 were Turismo's) The other 9 orders they took were spread over every other model. SO you can see how build slots are being sucked up at a rate of knots.
I binned the passenger screen, it wasn't in the car we test drove and I saw little advantage of having it. There were already more screens than I knew what to do with. In fact it took us 20 minutes to figure out how to turn the radio on. I'm really not a fan of touch screen, but right now it seems to be the future. I'd prefer a few buttons for the more important functions then touch screen for the stuff you only change when stationary.
My big ticket item is the wheels, I'd prefer smaller than 21" (for ride quality) but they all just look rubbish, so I went with the options. The test car rode so well on 21's I was impressed and every review I've watched so far has said the Turismo is softer still - perfect for a daily.
Second big ticket item is rear wheel steering, it's a big car and I currently live with a 2017 Audi C7 S6 Avant which is almost the same size. Rear wheel steering will make parking a lot easier and it comes with the enhanced steering at slow speed.
I didn't like the "sound" in the test car, we asked him to turn it off and found it much nicer without.
Panoramic roof was a must for me as is surround view cameras.
I like the no cost option chalk beige interior as it tones nicely with the Cherry paint.
It's shame they don't offer that lovely rich metallic orange colour they do on the Panamera, I would have gone for that if it was a possibility, it would look great with the black trim.
The thing with Porsche though, we may may moan about the options, but unlike Audi or Mercedes you aren't restricted to bundles or packages where you have a whole load of stuff you don't want just to get the one item you did. You spec your car how you want it, after all it's a contract hire deal, it's being handed back and there's no thought whatsoever of speccing it for a good residual.
Oh and I despise privacy glass, so being "allowed" to buy a premium car without it is a big tick in my book.
Edited by 21ATS on Sunday 23 May 23:00
Edited by 21ATS on Sunday 23 May 23:17
Passenger screen, gimmick. Not even considered having it...
Rear Wheel steer - hear a lot of good about this, but never used so kind of ignored it?
Pan roof looks great.
Surround view a defo, big bonnet, tiny rear window!
I’m struggling to spec a £3k interior option, but would really like the black and red. The black and grey are boring, so here’s hoping I like the quality and colour of the black/chalk beige standard...
Wheels, agreed. I’m torn between the two 21 options...
Exciting stuff!
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