Taycan range

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Flugplatz

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20 posts

44 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Hello all - newbie here.

I have a Taycan Turbo S. I'm intrigued to hear the experience of others re: the range they're achieving with these cars.

Mine is now nearly 6 months old. In October, when it first arrived, the 100%-charged range was around 207-209 miles.

I've now realised that to maintain battery health/life, it should be charged to a max of 85% unless a long journey is planned.

But now, the 100%-equivalent range is down to around 195 miles at very best, sometimes down to 185.

Thoughts, others' experience and advice gratefully received, thanks in advance!

FP

MeisterH

846 posts

108 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I’ve a Turbo and max I’ve seen on the 17degrees day we have end of February was 229 @ 100%..

I have said this on the Taycan forum that these cars are lifestyle cars and not commuter cars if your going up and down the country it would drive me max stopping to see the Ionity charger either always busy OR out of use OR ‘being updated’ those are my finding when I have had to stop and try and charge

Shame really is, as the Taycan is one of the best Porsche I have ever Owned, just an all round super competent car

richterswil

872 posts

198 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I can’t comment on the Taycan but did own a Tesla Model S for a couple of years. Ambient temperature made a significant difference to range in that car. Around 15% less range on a zero degree vs say twenty degree day. Could be your experience is attributable to winter versus autumn. .

ReformedPistonhead

965 posts

144 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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MeisterH said:
I’ve a Turbo and max I’ve seen on the 17degrees day we have end of February was 229 @ 100%..

I have said this on the Taycan forum that these cars are lifestyle cars and not commuter cars if your going up and down the country it would drive me max stopping to see the Ionity charger either always busy OR out of use OR ‘being updated’ those are my finding when I have had to stop and try and charge

Shame really is, as the Taycan is one of the best Porsche I have ever Owned, just an all round super competent car
I would love to change my Model S Performance for a Taycan Turbo (S or otherwise) but it is losing the easy (and free for me) Superchargers and instead having the issues you describe above which puts me off.

Finger’s crossed the non-Tesla supercharging network keeps accelerating roll-out!

PS my range is 25% lower in winter than summer if that helps.

Grantstown

1,089 posts

94 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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My 4S is currently saying 181 at 81%, so that’d be 223 at 100%. I’m hoping for more as the weather improves.

LordGrover

33,689 posts

219 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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This is an old video, but may be relevant...


anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Are you guys talking about actual mileage or the mileage it says you're going to get when it's full? All the journalist videos I've seen show it getting much better real range than it says it's going to.

otolith

58,934 posts

211 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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I wonder how intelligent the range estimation software is, whether the change in expected range is due to it knowing how you drive it, and whether you can reset the calibration.

Discombobulate

5,107 posts

193 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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Flugplatz said:
Hello all - newbie here.

I have a Taycan Turbo S. I'm intrigued to hear the experience of others re: the range they're achieving with these cars.

Mine is now nearly 6 months old. In October, when it first arrived, the 100%-charged range was around 207-209 miles.

I've now realised that to maintain battery health/life, it should be charged to a max of 85% unless a long journey is planned.

But now, the 100%-equivalent range is down to around 195 miles at very best, sometimes down to 185.

Thoughts, others' experience and advice gratefully received, thanks in advance!

FP
Sounds about given low nigh time temps over last few weeks. Does the Taycan have a precondition facility to warm the batteries before departure? If so, you may get a lot more using this.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

109 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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The range shown on the Taycan's PCM before driving is very pessimistic in my experience. For example this figure doesn't include extra miles of range accrued during the journey as in coasting, re-gen energy through braking and deceleration. This can easily add another 10% to the indicated range at the start and probably more.
On a recent journey i did in my 4S the range shown at the start was 224miles on 100%. I then drove a total 132 miles door to door on a mix of town, motorway and built up areas and on arriving home i still had an indicated 110 miles left. I'm pretty confident if i'd kept on driving this 110 mile range would have extended by a further 15-20 miles.

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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220 miles 4s with Performance Battery Plus - Summer was around 240 Winter 220...-8 was 220 too!

Flying machine

1,132 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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It seems to me that the Taycan indicated range is fairly pessimistic (but probably more realistic) than the indicated range in my M3 Tesla - is that right? So if the indicated range is around 200 miles, travelling 150 miles would see around 50 left on one charge? As a comparison, I've done mostly motorway journeys of around 200 miles in my Tesla (which at full charge claims 306 miles) and been left with around 50 miles by the time I get home.

I only ask as I'm putting a deposit down on a Taycan Turbo next month to replace the Tesla.

puttything

142 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Flying machine said:
It seems to me that the Taycan indicated range is fairly pessimistic (but probably more realistic) than the indicated range in my M3 Tesla - is that right? So if the indicated range is around 200 miles, travelling 150 miles would see around 50 left on one charge? As a comparison, I've done mostly motorway journeys of around 200 miles in my Tesla (which at full charge claims 306 miles) and been left with around 50 miles by the time I get home.

I only ask as I'm putting a deposit down on a Taycan Turbo next month to replace the Tesla.
I'd agree with that - my experience so far is the range indicated is the worst case, so if you jump straight on the motorway in sub-zero temperatures, you'll still get the range indicated.

Grantstown

1,089 posts

94 months

Flying machine

1,132 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Grantstown said:
Wow, interesting read! Thanks for the link. Although I've got a M3 not a MS, the results seem to reflect my experience with Tesla.

Flugplatz

Original Poster:

20 posts

44 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Flying machine said:
Grantstown said:
Wow, interesting read! Thanks for the link. Although I've got a M3 not a MS, the results seem to reflect my experience with Tesla.
Yes, agreed - my experience is that the Taycan range indicator is pretty accurate. A very gentle driving style can eek out a few more miles than the 100% range-prediction, but only by 2-3 miles or so over 180-odd.

ReformedPistonhead

965 posts

144 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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Flugplatz said:
Flying machine said:
Grantstown said:
Wow, interesting read! Thanks for the link. Although I've got a M3 not a MS, the results seem to reflect my experience with Tesla.
Yes, agreed - my experience is that the Taycan range indicator is pretty accurate. A very gentle driving style can eek out a few more miles than the 100% range-prediction, but only by 2-3 miles or so over 180-odd.
Well if a Taycan gets 250 miles against 250 predicted and my Model S gets 263 miles (average consumption 379 Wh/mi over 11,500 miles since new) against 350 predicted then it would appear that they are actually pretty similar in terms of range.

Given the build quality of a Taycan will be 200x better than a Tesla (I say that as a Tesla and former 911 owner) then there appears to be little argument for buying Tesla except for ease of supercharging.


Turbo cab

1,601 posts

239 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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puttything said:
Flying machine said:
It seems to me that the Taycan indicated range is fairly pessimistic (but probably more realistic) than the indicated range in my M3 Tesla - is that right? So if the indicated range is around 200 miles, travelling 150 miles would see around 50 left on one charge? As a comparison, I've done mostly motorway journeys of around 200 miles in my Tesla (which at full charge claims 306 miles) and been left with around 50 miles by the time I get home.

I only ask as I'm putting a deposit down on a Taycan Turbo next month to replace the Tesla.
I'd agree with that - my experience so far is the range indicated is the worst case, so if you jump straight on the motorway in sub-zero temperatures, you'll still get the range indicated.
Correct and at the maximum permissible speed in eco

Pope

2,644 posts

254 months

Sunday 21st March 2021
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https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/taycan/taycan-mo...

Scroll to the bottom of the page; there is a range calculator tool that seems pleasingly accurate

Flugplatz

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20 posts

44 months

Monday 22nd March 2021
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Pope said:
https://www.porsche.com/uk/models/taycan/taycan-mo...

Scroll to the bottom of the page; there is a range calculator tool that seems pleasingly accurate
Funnily enough, found this at the w/e. Yes, agree, it gives predictions that mirror quite closely what I'm seeing in real use.

At least I can be content that there's nothing outlier-ish about my car.

And, in the round, they are extraordinary cars. There's something quite luxurious about the seamless power delivery combined with the refinement and freakish ride. You can see how well suited the next gen of EV powertrain will be to a Rolls, for example, once there's a bit more power capacity.

The charging network isn't actually that bad. The Shell Recharge 150kw rapid chargers (not many around at the moment, have a look on Zap Map) seem to work at least as fast as the Ionity network. Gridserve have taken a share in the ageing Ecotricity network to upgrade motorway sites and will, I understand, put rapid chargers (350kw) at the Cornwall Services site on the A30 this summer. Their existing programme of bespoke sites continues albeit longer lead on these - understand that there may be one on the A303 near Amesbury in due course.