Taycan GFV

[kbf1981]

What sort of GFV's are people getting quoted on the Taycan 4S / Turbo / Turbo S?

[Cheib]

kbf1981 said:

What sort of GFV's are people getting quoted on the Taycan 4S / Turbo / Turbo S?

I haven’t had a detailed conversation but was told by the business manager at my OPC that for a Turbo specced to £130k he’d just got a quote of something like £85k for two years and relatively low miles for another customer. I can’t remember what the other two were but the Turbo in % terms was the best.

If I take the one I have my name down for it’ll do at least 10k miles a year which I suspect would be ruinous for GFV. I don’t finance my cars normally but would for a Taycan if i follow through on mine....want some kind of protection on residuals.

[kbf1981]

Cheib said:

kbf1981 said:

What sort of GFV's are people getting quoted on the Taycan 4S / Turbo / Turbo S?

I haven’t had a detailed conversation but was told by the business manager at my OPC that for a Turbo specced to £130k he’d just got a quote of something like £85k for two years and relatively low miles for another customer. I can’t remember what the other two were but the Turbo in % terms was the best.

If I take the one I have my name down for it’ll do at least 10k miles a year which I suspect would be ruinous for GFV. I don’t finance my cars normally but would for a Taycan if i follow through on mine....want some kind of protection on residuals.

I've got an order in for the Turbo - GFV was 58% from memory when I asked for a quote. If running through the business I'd need to make a call as what's the most sensible way, as you can claim back half the vat on lease. My turbo was £122k I think...

[Taffy66]

kbf1981 said:

I've got an order in for the Turbo - GFV was 58% from memory when I asked for a quote. If running through the business I'd need to make a call as what's the most sensible way, as you can claim back half the vat on lease. My turbo was £122k I think...

Same boat as me..I also have a Turbo on order and also specced to £122K which needs the £3.5K Grant taken out of..Unless i could pay for it out of my business or take advantage of the 0% BIK i wouldn't bother buying one and just get a Cayenne instead.
Leasing costs need to be compared to PCP costs over the whole term to see which works out cheaper..Being able to claim 50% of the VAT back admittedly makes the former very attractive as long as the option of ownership at the end is not required.

[kbf1981]

Taffy66 said:

kbf1981 said:

I've got an order in for the Turbo - GFV was 58% from memory when I asked for a quote. If running through the business I'd need to make a call as what's the most sensible way, as you can claim back half the vat on lease. My turbo was £122k I think...

Same boat as me..I also have a Turbo on order and also specced to £122K which needs the £3.5K Grant taken out of..Unless i could pay for it out of my business or take advantage of the 0% BIK i wouldn't bother buying one and just get a Cayenne instead.
Leasing costs need to be compared to PCP costs over the whole term to see which works out cheaper..Being able to claim 50% of the VAT back admittedly makes the former very attractive as long as the option of ownership at the end is not required.

What are you going for? Lease or the pcp / hp? The pcp / hp you can use first year allowance and that's worth probably £10k as you save tax on the purchase price but eventually pay it on the sale price. The vat reclaim on lease payments is probably worth 7k....so doing hp through the business seems better value?

[PSB1]

I looked at this. Although the write down via purchase through the business looks tempting, I think it’s a big risk. Tech is evolving so quickly that the price of these even 2 years down the line is very hard to predict. I’d lease.

[Robbo66]

BIK rules on first owner only and CT offset only available on car when new. You try and sell one of these puppies in 12 months when upcoming tech has made it look like a Phillips Laser Disc too.
No thanks.

[SRT Hellcat]

Robbo66 said:

You try and sell one of these puppies in 12 months when upcoming tech has made it look like a Phillips Laser Disc too.
No thanks.

I think this will be the issue for most ev's especially high end

[Cheib]

Robbo66 said:

BIK rules on first owner only and CT offset only available on car when new. You try and sell one of these puppies in 12 months when upcoming tech has made it look like a Phillips Laser Disc too.
No thanks.

I asked a friend of a friend who works for JLR in drivetrain area that recently.....he said the next major step in battery tech is reduced pricing rather than improved capacity. I think that’s the major thing you have to worry about...that’s three or four years away apparently.

[tedblog]

Cheib said:

I asked a friend of a friend who works for JLR in drivetrain area that recently.....he said the next major step in battery tech is reduced pricing rather than improved capacity. I think that’s the major thing you have to worry about...that’s three or four years away apparently.

Agreed on the tech side as a range of 200 plus miles seems acceptable in the industry, yes batteries will get lighter but i dont think the batteries will get cheaper as recycled lithium isnt good enough for new batteries. It will be the amount of cars they produce will bring the cost down, but that has to be cheaper for it to work. As most cars are purchased on leases then only the monthly figure comes into the equation. but then also another concern in car studies is the lack of charging points available?