Porsche Taycan and future Porsche EVs and values

Porsche Taycan and future Porsche EVs and values

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youngsyr

14,742 posts

198 months

Friday 29th December 2023
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Discombobulate said:
youngsyr said:
But did they actually tear down the engine and replace the cylinder liner or block?

That is the actual fix that the dealers didn't do and only independents do now.
As I said, that is what the Porsche dealer were told to do by Porsche, but I refused and demanded a new engine. Which, I thought at the time, would fix the problem. Suffice to say that I know have a 4.1 Hartech engine...
But Porsche didn't tear down the engine and rebuild it, did they.

marsh3377

3 posts

9 months

Monday 8th January
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Hi all, new to the forum.

I am looking at potentially buying a new Porsche Taycan Turbo - going to test drive it tomorrow. It's currently advertised on the Porsche website for £121,990 with an original configurator price of £147,714. Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice on what extra discount I could be looking at getting off the £121,990 price?

Many thanks!

Discombobulate

5,021 posts

192 months

Monday 8th January
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marsh3377 said:
Hi all, new to the forum.

I am looking at potentially buying a new Porsche Taycan Turbo - going to test drive it tomorrow. It's currently advertised on the Porsche website for £121,990 with an original configurator price of £147,714. Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice on what extra discount I could be looking at getting off the £121,990 price?

Many thanks!
As much as you can get smile
Put it this way, if you were to ask the sales person what they would give you for it if you traded it back in after a week, it would start with an 8 (at best).
If they agreed to buy it, some dealers are just saying no (and they probably would say no if it's a saloon).

PS WBAC not reliable price guide but this car retails at nearly 180K and WBAC will give you the princely sum of £68k for it. Gulp!

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Edited by Discombobulate on Monday 8th January 15:07

marsh3377

3 posts

9 months

Monday 8th January
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Wow!! That is just downright scary!!

Have to say, as much as I'm excited about potentially owning a Taycan the current depreciation and residual values are making me jittery. So yes, completely get your point about getting as big a discount as possible as it looks like it will be needed! Also, it starts to get to a point where the 100% corporation tax write off becomes immaterial and actually a much better option would be to buy a year old second hand one.

HoHoHo

15,142 posts

256 months

Monday 8th January
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marsh3377 said:
Wow!! That is just downright scary!!

Have to say, as much as I'm excited about potentially owning a Taycan the current depreciation and residual values are making me jittery. So yes, completely get your point about getting as big a discount as possible as it looks like it will be needed! Also, it starts to get to a point where the 100% corporation tax write off becomes immaterial and actually a much better option would be to buy a year old second hand one.
Or get a well spec'd GTS which are about £125k list and can be had new from about £100k (or possibly lower?).

Likely to be less depreciation and it has very similar performance to the Turbo and is the pick of the bunch as far as I can see.

Sidsw

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719 posts

91 months

Monday 8th January
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i'd be wary buying a taycan not only because of the massive hit you take, even with discount, but the reliabiltiy of these things. a number of opc's a colleague spoke to last week cant see his macan s until mid to end feb, due to the amount of taycan they have to deal with due to warranty issues.

garypotter

1,647 posts

156 months

Monday 8th January
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slightly off topic but a friend of mine has purchased a BMW i8, imentioned about the battery pack and old technolocgy etc but he has found a company in the USA where you send them the Battery cell and they will strip and rebuild with brand new better components for about £4,000 plus post both ways.

I would imagine the same would happen to the Taycan battery pack if it can be easiliy removed. From what i have heard the Mercedes packs are part of the chassis so they cannot be replaced as the whole car needs to be stripped so cost wise ineffective.


Grantstown

1,062 posts

93 months

Monday 8th January
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marsh3377 said:
Hi all, new to the forum.

I am looking at potentially buying a new Porsche Taycan Turbo - going to test drive it tomorrow. It's currently advertised on the Porsche website for £121,990 with an original configurator price of £147,714. Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice on what extra discount I could be looking at getting off the £121,990 price?

Many thanks!
If you’re on the 25% WDA level then it’s still a great deal.

Otherwise get a 2nd bargain turbo S and write down by 18% per year.

No buys one of these for cash and then gives it away to WBAC after a year, so that sort of talk is pointless.

garystoybox

805 posts

123 months

Monday 8th January
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Grantstown said:
If you’re on the 25% WDA level then it’s still a great deal.

Otherwise get a 2nd bargain turbo S and write down by 18% per year.

No buys one of these for cash and then gives it away to WBAC after a year, so that sort of talk is pointless.
Yep, WBAC value a bit strange. I put my 20 month old 18,000 mile 4SCT in and it’s just come out at £62,895, which is £3k higher than it was 3 weeks ago. Anyway, heater went pop last Thursday. Went in to Porsche on Friday with a Macan T courtesy car; new part ordered and in stock today, being fitted tomorrow and collection Wednesday. No real hardship so I wouldn’t believe all the rubbish about Taycan living in the dealership for months on end (although it probably was like this a year ago!).
Sod the depreciation, it’s such an epic car…. My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison and it’s far and away the best daily I’ve ever had by a distance (numerous M5’s, E63’s, X5M included).

Murph7355

38,697 posts

262 months

Monday 8th January
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garystoybox said:
...My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison ....
The more I spend time in mine, the more this becomes a "problem".

Any normal car feels old hat...and you get used to the way the Taycan goes quite quickly.

HoHoHo

15,142 posts

256 months

Monday 8th January
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Murph7355 said:
garystoybox said:
...My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison ....
The more I spend time in mine, the more this becomes a "problem".

Any normal car feels old hat...and you get used to the way the Taycan goes quite quickly.
And my new GTS ST makes my year old 4SCT seem like a slow milk float!

They truly are brilliant machines and if you learn to work with them they are very rewarding. If you go in hating the EV and what is has to offer you’ll never get on with one.

In practice a 225-250 mile range and the infrastructure is more than adequate. Funny how it seems 90% of those who moan it doesn’t work haven’t actually had one!

Stu-nph26

2,050 posts

111 months

Tuesday 9th January
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garystoybox said:
Yep, WBAC value a bit strange. I put my 20 month old 18,000 mile 4SCT in and it’s just come out at £62,895, which is £3k higher than it was 3 weeks ago. Anyway, heater went pop last Thursday. Went in to Porsche on Friday with a Macan T courtesy car; new part ordered and in stock today, being fitted tomorrow and collection Wednesday. No real hardship so I wouldn’t believe all the rubbish about Taycan living in the dealership for months on end (although it probably was like this a year ago!).
Sod the depreciation, it’s such an epic car…. My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison and it’s far and away the best daily I’ve ever had by a distance (numerous M5’s, E63’s, X5M included).
Same experience between Xmas and New Year. Had a Macan T for 4 days it was like driving a tractor. Wasn't a silver Macan by any chance from Porsche Newcastle was it Gary? Interesting you prefer the Taycan to the M5 that was the other car in the running for me when I bought mine sounds like I made the right decision

garystoybox

805 posts

123 months

Tuesday 9th January
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Stu-nph26 said:
garystoybox said:
Yep, WBAC value a bit strange. I put my 20 month old 18,000 mile 4SCT in and it’s just come out at £62,895, which is £3k higher than it was 3 weeks ago. Anyway, heater went pop last Thursday. Went in to Porsche on Friday with a Macan T courtesy car; new part ordered and in stock today, being fitted tomorrow and collection Wednesday. No real hardship so I wouldn’t believe all the rubbish about Taycan living in the dealership for months on end (although it probably was like this a year ago!).
Sod the depreciation, it’s such an epic car…. My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison and it’s far and away the best daily I’ve ever had by a distance (numerous M5’s, E63’s, X5M included).
Same experience between Xmas and New Year. Had a Macan T for 4 days it was like driving a tractor. Wasn't a silver Macan by any chance from Porsche Newcastle was it Gary? Interesting you prefer the Taycan to the M5 that was the other car in the running for me when I bought mine sounds like I made the right decision
Ha Stu, I must have a stalker! Absolutely right Silver Maycan, Porsche Newcastle. You didn’t leave some Callaway golf clubs in the boot did you? If so they’re still there. Just about to go and pick the Taycan up in an hour. Joy!

Yep, loved the M5, but as I’ve written elsewhere on here, didn’t realise how much I enjoy the ultra refinement and hugely better ride quality of the Taycan. Couldn’t go back now anyway. Blatantly crass comment, but with this and the 812SF in the I’ve the ultimate 2 car garage (and enjoy driving my wife’s electric Mini around town).

Murph7355

38,697 posts

262 months

Tuesday 9th January
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HoHoHo said:
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In practice a 225-250 mile range...
Haven't got close to 225 in mine in 4.5k miles.

You're not driving it hard enough biggrin

Stu-nph26

2,050 posts

111 months

Tuesday 9th January
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garystoybox said:
Stu-nph26 said:
garystoybox said:
Yep, WBAC value a bit strange. I put my 20 month old 18,000 mile 4SCT in and it’s just come out at £62,895, which is £3k higher than it was 3 weeks ago. Anyway, heater went pop last Thursday. Went in to Porsche on Friday with a Macan T courtesy car; new part ordered and in stock today, being fitted tomorrow and collection Wednesday. No real hardship so I wouldn’t believe all the rubbish about Taycan living in the dealership for months on end (although it probably was like this a year ago!).
Sod the depreciation, it’s such an epic car…. My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison and it’s far and away the best daily I’ve ever had by a distance (numerous M5’s, E63’s, X5M included).
Same experience between Xmas and New Year. Had a Macan T for 4 days it was like driving a tractor. Wasn't a silver Macan by any chance from Porsche Newcastle was it Gary? Interesting you prefer the Taycan to the M5 that was the other car in the running for me when I bought mine sounds like I made the right decision
Ha Stu, I must have a stalker! Absolutely right Silver Maycan, Porsche Newcastle. You didn’t leave some Callaway golf clubs in the boot did you? If so they’re still there. Just about to go and pick the Taycan up in an hour. Joy!

Yep, loved the M5, but as I’ve written elsewhere on here, didn’t realise how much I enjoy the ultra refinement and hugely better ride quality of the Taycan. Couldn’t go back now anyway. Blatantly crass comment, but with this and the 812SF in the I’ve the ultimate 2 car garage (and enjoy driving my wife’s electric Mini around town).
Haha yes I did 3 or 4 irons and my driver. I’d been to the range when I got the call my Taycan was ready, I need to call in at Porsche and get them ha. Small world.

That’s the dream garage right there an EV and a V12. I don’t think I’ve seen a 812SF in the north east there can’t be many.


HoHoHo

15,142 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th January
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Murph7355 said:
HoHoHo said:
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In practice a 225-250 mile range...
Haven't got close to 225 in mine in 4.5k miles.

You're not driving it hard enough biggrin
Currently 190 miles given the temperature.

That’s more than sufficient for my 2 mile commute to work (albeit some would still argue EV’s just don’t have the range!) smile

Murph7355

38,697 posts

262 months

Tuesday 9th January
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HoHoHo said:
Currently 190 miles given the temperature.

That’s more than sufficient for my 2 mile commute to work (albeit some would still argue EV’s just don’t have the range!) smile
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ds666

2,755 posts

185 months

Wednesday 10th January
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garystoybox said:
Stu-nph26 said:
garystoybox said:
Yep, WBAC value a bit strange. I put my 20 month old 18,000 mile 4SCT in and it’s just come out at £62,895, which is £3k higher than it was 3 weeks ago. Anyway, heater went pop last Thursday. Went in to Porsche on Friday with a Macan T courtesy car; new part ordered and in stock today, being fitted tomorrow and collection Wednesday. No real hardship so I wouldn’t believe all the rubbish about Taycan living in the dealership for months on end (although it probably was like this a year ago!).
Sod the depreciation, it’s such an epic car…. My God, the courtesy car feels archaic in comparison and it’s far and away the best daily I’ve ever had by a distance (numerous M5’s, E63’s, X5M included).
Same experience between Xmas and New Year. Had a Macan T for 4 days it was like driving a tractor. Wasn't a silver Macan by any chance from Porsche Newcastle was it Gary? Interesting you prefer the Taycan to the M5 that was the other car in the running for me when I bought mine sounds like I made the right decision
Ha Stu, I must have a stalker! Absolutely right Silver Maycan, Porsche Newcastle. You didn’t leave some Callaway golf clubs in the boot did you? If so they’re still there. Just about to go and pick the Taycan up in an hour. Joy!

Yep, loved the M5, but as I’ve written elsewhere on here, didn’t realise how much I enjoy the ultra refinement and hugely better ride quality of the Taycan. Couldn’t go back now anyway. Blatantly crass comment, but with this and the 812SF in the I’ve the ultimate 2 car garage (and enjoy driving my wife’s electric Mini around town).
Snap - I've a Taycan and the wife an electric Mini ( which I don't enjoy as much as the i3's she's had) - I can't find a 812SF in the garage though ...
3 other v12's there though smile

phib

4,473 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th January
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HoHoHo said:
Murph7355 said:
HoHoHo said:
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In practice a 225-250 mile range...
Haven't got close to 225 in mine in 4.5k miles.

You're not driving it hard enough biggrin
Currently 190 miles given the temperature.

That’s more than sufficient for my 2 mile commute to work (albeit some would still argue EV’s just don’t have the range!) smile
You cant be right ... everyone who owns (yeah right), owned or wants to own a taycan does 200+ miles everyday with no stops !!

and look even if you really own do 2 miles a day, you are going to get range anxiety after 100 days !! How will you cope ???

Phib


HoHoHo

15,142 posts

256 months

Wednesday 10th January
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phib said:
HoHoHo said:
Murph7355 said:
HoHoHo said:
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In practice a 225-250 mile range...
Haven't got close to 225 in mine in 4.5k miles.

You're not driving it hard enough biggrin
Currently 190 miles given the temperature.

That’s more than sufficient for my 2 mile commute to work (albeit some would still argue EV’s just don’t have the range!) smile
You cant be right ... everyone who owns (yeah right), owned or wants to own a taycan does 200+ miles everyday with no stops !!

and look even if you really own do 2 miles a day, you are going to get range anxiety after 100 days !! How will you cope ???

Phib
hehe