Buying a used Taycan
Discussion
Mikebentley said:
h0b0 said:
US used prices for all cars are often higher than the UK. I have been following Turbo S cars for some time as I think it will work well as part of my "hybrid" model along side my Cayenne GTS. Cars listed on Auto trader are $90k up. Cars going through public auctions are $77k (£65k) and up. A big difference that has become apparent in the last few months.
I did speak to a dealer who had a car up at $100k originally. The car sold at $82k. This one was listed as Buy Back (Lemon) on it's record so that impacted value. The repair was to replace the HV battery. This sort of history would not be recorded in the UK.
I am going to keep watching the cars as they come up.
I think the Lemon Laws are something that should be adopted in the UK.I did speak to a dealer who had a car up at $100k originally. The car sold at $82k. This one was listed as Buy Back (Lemon) on it's record so that impacted value. The repair was to replace the HV battery. This sort of history would not be recorded in the UK.
I am going to keep watching the cars as they come up.
Here is some experience of my own,
I have a Porsche and my wife has an Audi. During the parts shortage Audi told us they did not have parts to fix our car that had failed in the manner of a critical safety recall and we should just wait until the part was available. No courtesy car, nothing. My friend was paid $7k to not lemon law his Audi.
Porsche, however were buying back cars all over the place for the most minor reasons because their customers shouldn't have to wait. That is why you will see a huge number of lemon law Porsches and when you look into the details it says "squeaky brakes" on a car with carbon ceramics. Another was "Parking sensor failure".
I am hoping Porsche and Audi have sorted out the issues on the early cars. Both my Audi and Porsche dealers told me not to buy one. But, looking at the records of the Taycans it seems most have had the common issues fixed.
Hey.
I'm looking at buying a used 4S or Turbo.
I can get a newer 4S than a Turbo for my budget.
Within budget are 2020 Taycan Turbos and around 2021/2022 4S.
Are there any major concerns with the earlier cars?
I had read about recalls and issues but my hope was that if it was a 2020 car (I'll be ensuring it comes with a decent warranty) will have had any necessary recall work done?
Or would I be better off buying a newer car i.e. 2021/2022 4S.
I'm looking at buying a used 4S or Turbo.
I can get a newer 4S than a Turbo for my budget.
Within budget are 2020 Taycan Turbos and around 2021/2022 4S.
Are there any major concerns with the earlier cars?
I had read about recalls and issues but my hope was that if it was a 2020 car (I'll be ensuring it comes with a decent warranty) will have had any necessary recall work done?
Or would I be better off buying a newer car i.e. 2021/2022 4S.
h0b0 said:
Mikebentley said:
h0b0 said:
US used prices for all cars are often higher than the UK. I have been following Turbo S cars for some time as I think it will work well as part of my "hybrid" model along side my Cayenne GTS. Cars listed on Auto trader are $90k up. Cars going through public auctions are $77k (£65k) and up. A big difference that has become apparent in the last few months.
I did speak to a dealer who had a car up at $100k originally. The car sold at $82k. This one was listed as Buy Back (Lemon) on it's record so that impacted value. The repair was to replace the HV battery. This sort of history would not be recorded in the UK.
I am going to keep watching the cars as they come up.
I think the Lemon Laws are something that should be adopted in the UK.I did speak to a dealer who had a car up at $100k originally. The car sold at $82k. This one was listed as Buy Back (Lemon) on it's record so that impacted value. The repair was to replace the HV battery. This sort of history would not be recorded in the UK.
I am going to keep watching the cars as they come up.
Here is some experience of my own,
I have a Porsche and my wife has an Audi. During the parts shortage Audi told us they did not have parts to fix our car that had failed in the manner of a critical safety recall and we should just wait until the part was available. No courtesy car, nothing. My friend was paid $7k to not lemon law his Audi.
Porsche, however were buying back cars all over the place for the most minor reasons because their customers shouldn't have to wait. That is why you will see a huge number of lemon law Porsches and when you look into the details it says "squeaky brakes" on a car with carbon ceramics. Another was "Parking sensor failure".
I am hoping Porsche and Audi have sorted out the issues on the early cars. Both my Audi and Porsche dealers told me not to buy one. But, looking at the records of the Taycans it seems most have had the common issues fixed.
Back on topic. I really like the CT in the metallic pink colour but I find it a little small compared to my 2022 Defender and not sure the compromise of space would work for us. Anyone know what service costs are like?
king love them. Its one of the fav in my stable. KittyLitter said:
surely as the £40K+ (to replace) battery approaches the end of its lifespan then they'll be cheaper than a beaten up 944.
Sure to an extent but as with most cars when they get older the 3rd party garages and parts suppliers start to get up to speed. There are used 93kw/h batteries on eBay right now from salvage cars for £8-12K. Not saying they'd be for me but I don't think the future is quite as alarmist as some make out.KittyLitter said:
Blue62 said:
Does anyone have a feel for where Taycan values are going? I’m wondering if they’ve bottomed out or is there further to fall?
surely as the £40K+ (to replace) battery approaches the end of its lifespan then they'll be cheaper than a beaten up 944.It’s incredibly easy to drop the battery pack from a Taycan. The high prices are a reflection of the warranty racketeering that goes on. Many people will keep the cars on a Porsche warranty up to 15 years, but aside from this it’s certain that there will be a good independent network. Won’t be long until battery cells appear on the usual parts marketplaces. My battery at 38K is as good as new and there are reports of people running them on mega mileages already.
Grantstown said:
It’s incredibly easy to drop the battery pack from a Taycan. The high prices are a reflection of the warranty racketeering that goes on. Many people will keep the cars on a Porsche warranty up to 15 years, but aside from this it’s certain that there will be a good independent network. Won’t be long until battery cells appear on the usual parts marketplaces. My battery at 38K is as good as new and there are reports of people running them on mega mileages already.
What's the annual warranty renewal price from an OPC?BMW will offer a scheme where, even when warranty has expired, you can take out a fresh BMW warranty (been looking at another i3S for a runaround, I loved that car).
Grantstown said:
It’s incredibly easy to drop the battery pack from a Taycan. The high prices are a reflection of the warranty racketeering that goes on. Many people will keep the cars on a Porsche warranty up to 15 years, but aside from this it’s certain that there will be a good independent network. Won’t be long until battery cells appear on the usual parts marketplaces. My battery at 38K is as good as new and there are reports of people running them on mega mileages already.
^^^^^this^^^^^
I’m surprised no one has mentioned the “ex management” Taycan email that came out yesterday - I cannot be the only one to have received it?
Some eye watering reductions from list price ( £80k off a £180k car!), all seemed to be around 12 to 18 months old but no mention of mileages and no online access to specs etc. Perhaps one group has bought them as a job lot from Porsche GB in the hope of making some money.
The email came within minutes of another offering a 41 mile Spyder RS at a massive premium to list 🤪
Some eye watering reductions from list price ( £80k off a £180k car!), all seemed to be around 12 to 18 months old but no mention of mileages and no online access to specs etc. Perhaps one group has bought them as a job lot from Porsche GB in the hope of making some money.
The email came within minutes of another offering a 41 mile Spyder RS at a massive premium to list 🤪
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