Discounted stock Emiras...

Discounted stock Emiras...

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Square Leg

14,738 posts

192 months

Wednesday 12th June
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Dunbar871 said:
A few 0% options now on the site. I like the 50:50 advanced purchase plan, not seen one of those since Jaguar.

https://www.lotuscars.com/en-GB/emira/personal-fin...

Think I'll wait for the inevitable £50k ones to hit the used market.

ETA- I see Harry just bailed on his, so expect a correction to hit soon...

Edited by Dunbar871 on Wednesday 12th June 16:40
Lotus did the 50/50 deal when the Exige V6 came out in 2013

fridaypassion

8,795 posts

231 months

Wednesday 12th June
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50/50 was a devil to work against back in the day doing the used S2/S3 cars it makes a 2-3 year old one an absolute pain in the arse to move!

AceRockatansky

2,215 posts

30 months

Thursday 13th June
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Ken_Code said:
CorradoTDI said:
Have they actually looked at one and considered cooling though?

Lotus have already fitted a fairly chunky fan behind the drivers seat to aid cooling and it's noisy as standard.
They don’t offer tuning on that engine in the Emira yet, but given the care they’ve shown on my Range Rover and Portofino I think they’re certain to do it right.
Is it the same hardware as the A45s M139, i.e. 8 injectors, turbo, extra cooling. There's various iterations of that engine that may hinder it's potential.

Ken_Code

1,566 posts

5 months

Thursday 13th June
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AceRockatansky said:
Is it the same hardware as the A45s M139, i.e. 8 injectors, turbo, extra cooling. There's various iterations of that engine that may hinder it's potential.
I understand (but may be mistaken) that Lotus have "turned down" the engine so as not to overshadow the V6 model, and that there's no issue turning it back up to the state of tune as in the A45.

It's a bit academic for me, as mine was the V6, and I've sold it now. This was just a discussion while they were turning my Portofino up to 11.

AceRockatansky

2,215 posts

30 months

Thursday 13th June
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Ken_Code said:
AceRockatansky said:
Is it the same hardware as the A45s M139, i.e. 8 injectors, turbo, extra cooling. There's various iterations of that engine that may hinder it's potential.
I understand (but may be mistaken) that Lotus have "turned down" the engine so as not to overshadow the V6 model, and that there's no issue turning it back up to the state of tune as in the A45.

It's a bit academic for me, as mine was the V6, and I've sold it now. This was just a discussion while they were turning my Portofino up to 11.
We know it's less power, but that might just be a map. Different story if it has the hardware to match the power output, i.e. fewer injectors, small turbo, less cooling etc. I've not seen it confirmed if it's the same spec engine as the A45s. Great if it is.

Lotus struggling to cool the engine might just be a budget constraint.

CorradoTDI

1,492 posts

174 months

Thursday 13th June
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AceRockatansky said:
Ken_Code said:
AceRockatansky said:
Is it the same hardware as the A45s M139, i.e. 8 injectors, turbo, extra cooling. There's various iterations of that engine that may hinder it's potential.
I understand (but may be mistaken) that Lotus have "turned down" the engine so as not to overshadow the V6 model, and that there's no issue turning it back up to the state of tune as in the A45.

It's a bit academic for me, as mine was the V6, and I've sold it now. This was just a discussion while they were turning my Portofino up to 11.
We know it's less power, but that might just be a map. Different story if it has the hardware to match the power output, i.e. fewer injectors, small turbo, less cooling etc. I've not seen it confirmed if it's the same spec engine as the A45s. Great if it is.

Lotus struggling to cool the engine might just be a budget constraint.
It's not been mounted in the rear before now.

PinkHouse

1,106 posts

60 months

Thursday 13th June
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CorradoTDI said:
AceRockatansky said:
Ken_Code said:
AceRockatansky said:
Is it the same hardware as the A45s M139, i.e. 8 injectors, turbo, extra cooling. There's various iterations of that engine that may hinder it's potential.
I understand (but may be mistaken) that Lotus have "turned down" the engine so as not to overshadow the V6 model, and that there's no issue turning it back up to the state of tune as in the A45.

It's a bit academic for me, as mine was the V6, and I've sold it now. This was just a discussion while they were turning my Portofino up to 11.
We know it's less power, but that might just be a map. Different story if it has the hardware to match the power output, i.e. fewer injectors, small turbo, less cooling etc. I've not seen it confirmed if it's the same spec engine as the A45s. Great if it is.

Lotus struggling to cool the engine might just be a budget constraint.
It's not been mounted in the rear before now.
Also packaging might be restricted due to immovable hard points and ducting space etc

M Daddy

7 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th June
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Allegedly the UK engine is 360bhp whilst the Chinese variant is 400bhp so we know it's good for that power at least. The A45s makes 425bhp but that still could be Lotus detuning it to keep more in reserve for future hotter models.

I've had an i4 Emira for a couple of months now and it's recently completed the running in miles. I would say it feels comparable with my RS3 which is listed at 400bhp. I agree that the limiting factor will be cooling as Lotus have already included auxhilary fans which run when the engine warms up.

John D.

18,112 posts

212 months

Thursday 13th June
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It's blatantly been turned down not to over shadow the V6 and to leave some room for higher BHP future models.

Honeywell

1,387 posts

101 months

Thursday 13th June
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How do we know that Harry has sold his?

M Daddy

7 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th June
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Honeywell said:
How do we know that Harry has sold his?
He posted on Instagram a few days ago and promised a video explaining why and what's incoming to replace it. Not seem that pop up yet.

AceRockatansky

2,215 posts

30 months

Thursday 13th June
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M Daddy said:
Allegedly the UK engine is 360bhp whilst the Chinese variant is 400bhp so we know it's good for that power at least. The A45s makes 425bhp but that still could be Lotus detuning it to keep more in reserve for future hotter models.

I've had an i4 Emira for a couple of months now and it's recently completed the running in miles. I would say it feels comparable with my RS3 which is listed at 400bhp. I agree that the limiting factor will be cooling as Lotus have already included auxhilary fans which run when the engine warms up.
Can you check if it has 8 injectors?

rawenghey

491 posts

24 months

Friday 14th June
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Given the V6 has had poor reviews due to its lacklustre performance and low rev limit, could a hot I4 with over 400bhp and the DCT revive/save the Emira?

giveitfish

4,053 posts

217 months

Friday 14th June
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Saw a few Emiras prowl around Le Mans today and I’d say they could be powered by an old Ford TDCi belching smoke and people would still want one.

The road presence and effect on bystanders was equivalent to cars costing £200k more.

I think the V6 is OK, it’s not up to the Porsche equivalent but then what is? I don’t think think there is any other engine in this class which would be any better.

Not even the BMW six is a melodic rev chaser these days.

Emira doesn’t win on paper but it does win if want something which is not a Porsche.

rawenghey

491 posts

24 months

Friday 14th June
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giveitfish said:
Saw a few Emiras prowl around Le Mans today and I’d say they could be powered by an old Ford TDCi belching smoke and people would still want one.

The road presence and effect on bystanders was equivalent to cars costing £200k more.

I think the V6 is OK, it’s not up to the Porsche equivalent but then what is? I don’t think think there is any other engine in this class which would be any better.

Not even the BMW six is a melodic rev chaser these days.

Emira doesn’t win on paper but it does win if want something which is not a Porsche.
Agreed with this and I get people not wanting a Porsche, but you have to really want to die on that hill. I think many could fancy a ballistic I4+DCT packaged up in the stunning Emira body - assuming it's just hierarchy and not cooling holding the I4 back. Used prices will tank either way, so if you can pick one up for high 50s... is there anything that comes close?

highway

1,989 posts

263 months

Saturday 15th June
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Well that’s me told!

M Daddy

7 posts

43 months

Saturday 15th June
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AceRockatansky said:
Can you check if it has 8 injectors?
Sorry - I have no idea. The engine is under a cover and I doubt I'd be able to spot them even with the cover off! I will ask the engineer when I have my oil change next week though.

M Daddy

7 posts

43 months

Saturday 15th June
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It's nice to hear some positive love for the Emira on here. Despite waiting over 2.5 years for mine, I still think it was worth the wait. I've had zero issues and as others have said, it does look stunning. Lots of positive attention out and about. It feels like the last hurrah for Lotus before they go fully EV and they saved the best for last.

fridaypassion

8,795 posts

231 months

Nick Sticks

9 posts

34 months

Sunday 16th June
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fridaypassion said:
The boot is the best selling point for an Emira smile

Joking aside let's hope they realise and upload more photos.