Which PH'ers have placed a deposit on an Emira?
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Zarco said:
AlexNJ89 said:
Zarco said:
How could a dealer not take delivery of a car they ordered?
Same as us. I'm not talking about main dealers, I mean specialist dealers.As a private individual there is always the option to cancel right up to completion of the final checkout process, but I assumed that was probably related to distance selling regs which don't apply to B2B sales?
PorkInsider said:
Maybe they're in a stickier position than regular punters if they've ordered as a business?
As a private individual there is always the option to cancel right up to completion of the final checkout process, but I assumed that was probably related to distance selling regs which don't apply to B2B sales?
I don't think that's right. There's no legal right to do as you say for an individual (cancel right up to the final checkout process). Those words certainly don't appear in consumer law. What does appear is the so called distance selling regs which allow cancellation up to 14 days after delivery.As a private individual there is always the option to cancel right up to completion of the final checkout process, but I assumed that was probably related to distance selling regs which don't apply to B2B sales?
However, Lotus decided to enshrine stuff in their contract. That basically says that the payment of the deposit doesn't commit them to sell you a car, or commit you to buy a car. Nothing to do with statute.
Now to my presumptions. On the basis that Lotus decided not to have a dealer model where the dealers bought cars at a discount to list to sell at list, they won't have sold them to any businesses. What will have happened is that the principals in the businesses you mention ordered personal cars to sell on through their businesses.
bcr5784 said:
True - but I would have expected it to be as good a drive as the Evora. It's not as if the Evora was in any way hardcore.
The main thing that I find makes Porsches boring is their competence at pretending to be ordinary cars. Lotus needed to get themselves a bit of that to compete for mainstream buyers. I expected the new car to be a bit more ordinary to live with by design, and that to make it a bit less of an experience to use. bcr5784 said:
otolith said:
It’s meant to be more mass market. Something has to give.
True - but I would have expected it to be as good a drive as the Evora. It's not as if the Evora was in any way hardcore.For some reason it seems like they sacrificed a bit of the liveliness and linearity of input for straight line stability and benign balance. Perhaps they were worried that Porsche buyers would be unaccustomed to the wheel pulling about in their hands
BertBert said:
PorkInsider said:
Maybe they're in a stickier position than regular punters if they've ordered as a business?
As a private individual there is always the option to cancel right up to completion of the final checkout process, but I assumed that was probably related to distance selling regs which don't apply to B2B sales?
I don't think that's right. There's no legal right to do as you say for an individual (cancel right up to the final checkout process). Those words certainly don't appear in consumer law. What does appear is the so called distance selling regs which allow cancellation up to 14 days after delivery.As a private individual there is always the option to cancel right up to completion of the final checkout process, but I assumed that was probably related to distance selling regs which don't apply to B2B sales?
However, Lotus decided to enshrine stuff in their contract. That basically says that the payment of the deposit doesn't commit them to sell you a car, or commit you to buy a car. Nothing to do with statute.
Now to my presumptions. On the basis that Lotus decided not to have a dealer model where the dealers bought cars at a discount to list to sell at list, they won't have sold them to any businesses. What will have happened is that the principals in the businesses you mention ordered personal cars to sell on through their businesses.
Probably nothing to do with any of that, of course...
PorkInsider said:
When I said "always the option to cancel right up to the final checkout", I was talking about what Lotus are allowing and that I "assumed" the reason they were offering it was related to the distance selling regs. I.e. easier to let you cancel than insist you take it then end up having to accept it back anyway.
Probably nothing to do with any of that, of course...
You could well be right, but distance selling regs are still in force so they've not really gained anything on that front. Who knows!Probably nothing to do with any of that, of course...
BertBert said:
PorkInsider said:
When I said "always the option to cancel right up to the final checkout", I was talking about what Lotus are allowing and that I "assumed" the reason they were offering it was related to the distance selling regs. I.e. easier to let you cancel than insist you take it then end up having to accept it back anyway.
Probably nothing to do with any of that, of course...
You could well be right, but distance selling regs are still in force so they've not really gained anything on that front. Who knows!Probably nothing to do with any of that, of course...
But as you say, who knows!
Niponeoff said:
Are options classed as bespoke?
Fair enough if they made a duck egg blue interior with a metallic biege and brown 2 tone paint job, but I don't think they're doing that?
Interesting point. It's made to order I would have thought that makes it bespoke ie it's not stock it's produced to an individual spec. Fair enough if they made a duck egg blue interior with a metallic biege and brown 2 tone paint job, but I don't think they're doing that?
If you ordered a kids football team kit with the names printed on for example that is none returnable.
The Wookie said:
It’s a couple of geo tweaks away from being pretty much indistinguishable from an Evora which the best compliment I can give a car.
For some reason it seems like they sacrificed a bit of the liveliness and linearity of input for straight line stability and benign balance. Perhaps they were worried that Porsche buyers would be unaccustomed to the wheel pulling about in their hands
Nothing a decent go won't fixFor some reason it seems like they sacrificed a bit of the liveliness and linearity of input for straight line stability and benign balance. Perhaps they were worried that Porsche buyers would be unaccustomed to the wheel pulling about in their hands
fridaypassion said:
Niponeoff said:
Are options classed as bespoke?
Fair enough if they made a duck egg blue interior with a metallic biege and brown 2 tone paint job, but I don't think they're doing that?
Interesting point. It's made to order I would have thought that makes it bespoke ie it's not stock it's produced to an individual spec. Fair enough if they made a duck egg blue interior with a metallic biege and brown 2 tone paint job, but I don't think they're doing that?
If you ordered a kids football team kit with the names printed on for example that is none returnable.
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