Which PH'ers have placed a deposit on an Emira?

[Dick Dastardly]

Jon39 said:

The only disaster would be, if you suddenly could not service the monthly repayments. If that happened, you would regret not paying off most of your mortgage.

Or that’s when you sell your lotus to pay off the mortgage.

[jimPH]

as7920 said:

Speculative worst case pricing based on no official info whatsoever. I’ve never even owned a Lotus so non idea how realistic these prices could be.

£59,995 - AMG 2.0l 8sp DCT OTR
£1k - Seneca Blue metallic paint
£1k - Black pack
£2k - Black interior with alcantara and yellow stitching
£1k - Alcantara steering wheel with yellow stitching
£1.5k - Diamond cut ultra-lightweight forged V spoke wheels
£1k - K.E.F. audio upgrade
£250 - Yellow brake calipers

Hope everything listed above aren't cost options. But they are listed on the Configurator with the exception of the KEF audio upgrade. Perhaps thats standard. That's over 10% over OTR for my options (pessimistically)

[carphotographer]

MannyLon said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Is that confirmed pricing?

That's what I was told on the phone to B+C

[jimPH]

carphotographer said:

MannyLon said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Is that confirmed pricing?

That's what I was told on the phone to B+C

Throwing a few acronyms about there. How does your Audi Dealer know the price of a Lotus and what's Bangers + Cash got to do with it?

[Shnozz]

jimPH said:

carphotographer said:

MannyLon said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Is that confirmed pricing?

That's what I was told on the phone to B+C

Throwing a few acronyms about there. How does your Audi Dealer know the price of a Lotus and what's Bangers + Cash got to do with it?

I appreciate the Emira may open to new markets, but anyone with any background in Lotus would know Bell and Colvill. And from what another big Lotus dealer has said, B&C are the one that have been besieged by deposits. All that money down in that there London innit.

[carphotographer]

jimPH said:

carphotographer said:

MannyLon said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Is that confirmed pricing?

That's what I was told on the phone to B+C

Throwing a few acronyms about there. How does your Audi Dealer know the price of a Lotus and what's Bangers + Cash got to do with it?

B+C - Bell and Colville, been Lotus dealers for 50 years, the founders also had some nice motors themselves including a GT40 and Cobra. AD - authorised dealer, seems a common acronym in the watch community.

[jimPH]

carphotographer said:

jimPH said:

carphotographer said:

MannyLon said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Is that confirmed pricing?

That's what I was told on the phone to B+C

Throwing a few acronyms about there. How does your Audi Dealer know the price of a Lotus and what's Bangers + Cash got to do with it?

B+C - Bell and Colville, been Lotus dealers for 50 years, the founders also had some nice motors themselves including a GT40 and Cobra. AD - authorised dealer, seems a common acronym in the watch community.

Thanks for clearing that up, I try to avoid London, so not familiar with Bell & Colville. I don't belong to any watch communities either, curtain twitching isn't my thing.

[andyeds1234]

jimPH said:

Thanks for clearing that up, I try to avoid London, so not familiar with Bell & Colville. I don't belong to any watch communities either, curtain twitching isn't my thing.

Are you taking the mickey?

[Jon39]

carphotographer said:

B+C - Bell and Colville, been Lotus dealers for 50 years, the founders also had some nice motors themselves including a GT40 and Cobra. AD - authorised dealer, seems a common acronym in the watch community.

Not based in London, but beautiful Surrey countryside.

The founders would probably have known Ken Tyrrell, who lived very near to the B & C premises and his Formula One World Championship winning cars were constructed a couple of miles away (in a wooden shed, but with success came an adjacent smart factory building).

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

No me sadly, but my wifes best friends other half, who we met last week, is tempted. Currently owns a 918. He's on here, get it bought James!

[carphotographer]

Jon39 said:

carphotographer said:

B+C - Bell and Colville, been Lotus dealers for 50 years, the founders also had some nice motors themselves including a GT40 and Cobra. AD - authorised dealer, seems a common acronym in the watch community.

Not based in London, but beautiful Surrey countryside.

The founders would probably have known Ken Tyrrell, who lived very near to the B & C premises and his Formula One World Championship winning cars were constructed a couple of miles away (in a wooden shed, but with success came an adjacent smart factory building).

I remember when I was a teenager cycling pass the Tyrrell timber yard, mid 80's and they had old F1 tubs, wheels, wings in the undergrowth ...... Surrey is steeped in automotive history, Brabham was in Chessington, as was the FOCA and I think FIA, AC were down in Thames Ditton and when Brian Angliss bought the licence to build the Cobra his company, Autokraft were based at Brooklands. Panther cars and Cooper were based there too. Bristol cars moved to Surrey before they went bust and that's where Gordon Murray is based now. West Surrey Racing ( touring cars ) are based in Sunbury and there's Mclaren. Have seen plenty of P1s and Senna cars and the odd F1 road car around Ottershaw.

[mrcarrick]

Good to get on the topic of the car and away from the usual bore of who has what money and can afford what and car finance.

Interesting to hear on the Behind the Glass podcast that Tony was underwhelmed by it. Obviously has his bias towards Porsche though.

I’ve bought a few cars blind before and seemed to work out well.

Has anyone seen one in the flesh and felt disappointed?

[MannyLon]

mrcarrick said:

Good to get on the topic of the car and away from the usual bore of who has what money and can afford what and car finance.

Interesting to hear on the Behind the Glass podcast that Tony was underwhelmed by it. Obviously has his bias towards Porsche though.

I’ve bought a few cars blind before and seemed to work out well.

Has anyone seen one in the flesh and felt disappointed?

We have to be careful what social media types say as most are sponsored. It’s a shame but more transparency is needed in much of the UTube videos.

[PorkInsider]

as7920 said:

Speculative worst case pricing based on no official info whatsoever. I’ve never even owned a Lotus so non idea how realistic these prices could be.

£59,995 - AMG 2.0l 8sp DCT OTR
£1k - Seneca Blue metallic paint
£1k - Black pack
£2k - Black interior with alcantara and yellow stitching
£1k - Alcantara steering wheel with yellow stitching
£1.5k - Diamond cut ultra-lightweight forged V spoke wheels
£1k - K.E.F. audio upgrade
£250 - Yellow brake calipers

Hope everything listed above aren't cost options. But they are listed on the Configurator with the exception of the KEF audio upgrade. Perhaps thats standard. That's over 10% over OTR for my options (pessimistically)

The KEF upgrade could be anything between £250 and £5k+ depending on what it is exactly and what the base audio is.

[flyingscot68]

Bispal said:

Been on holiday (touring of course) since I started this post but seems there have been lots of orders for the Emira which is great news for Lotus.

The Emira looked amazing at the FoS, especially in blue, the black car did it no favours IMO. I want the Emira for touring and have yet to see the boot space but I was disappointed with the space behind the front seats. Considering the car is slightly longer than the Evora where has the space gone where the rear seats where? I read somewhere the rear bulkhead had been moved forward to allow for hybrid power trains. I really hope the boot is much bigger than the Evora or it may not be usable for touring. The rear shelf also slopes so its not useful for bags / coats etc. It could be that with its huge 'Frunk' and large flat shelf behind the seats that my 675LT will hold more luggage. In fact the Emira is only 13mm narrower than a 12C, another worry with narrow roads in the Alps, Cote d'Azur, Amalfi coast and Lake District.

I have never been so excited to see a boot before, the anticipation is building.....

Edited by Bispal on Friday 16th July 11:57

I saw the boot open at FOS - looked pretty much the same as the boot in my Evora tbh.

[blueg33]

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Just spent part of my weekend driving around north Devon in the 360. The 360 is an excellent car, if i swap it for an Emira I will really miss the engine and the old fashioned analogue stuff where the inly button on the steering wheel is for the horn.

Coming from and Evora the Ferrari handles almost a well, ride a little more harshly (especially in sport), but that engine makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up in a way that the Evora never did.

[Shnozz]

blueg33 said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Just spent part of my weekend driving around north Devon in the 360. The 360 is an excellent car, if i swap it for an Emira I will really miss the engine and the old fashioned analogue stuff where the inly button on the steering wheel is for the horn.

Coming from and Evora the Ferrari handles almost a well, ride a little more harshly (especially in sport), but that engine makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up in a way that the Evora never did.

Not sure how they are even in the same consideration to be honest. Old classic supercar versus brand new sportscar. Their value is about the only thing they share, but then so does 136,000 pints of milk or a semi-detached in the welsh valleys.

An old Ferrari comes with old tech and bills. Same with my Aston. I accept that as part of the experience, unpleasant or otherwise. Last week I had another £3.5k invoice and that's the costs of an old sports car. The infotainment system is laughable. It has old fashioned charm aplenty, but if it gets replaced by the Emira rather than kept alongside, I am buying a brand new sports car with new tech, a warranty and one should imagine miniscule running costs.

[blueg33]

Shnozz said:

blueg33 said:

carphotographer said:

I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

Just spent part of my weekend driving around north Devon in the 360. The 360 is an excellent car, if i swap it for an Emira I will really miss the engine and the old fashioned analogue stuff where the inly button on the steering wheel is for the horn.

Coming from and Evora the Ferrari handles almost a well, ride a little more harshly (especially in sport), but that engine makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up in a way that the Evora never did.

Not sure how they are even in the same consideration to be honest. Old classic supercar versus brand new sportscar. Their value is about the only thing they share, but then so does 136,000 pints of milk or a semi-detached in the welsh valleys.

An old Ferrari comes with old tech and bills. Same with my Aston. I accept that as part of the experience, unpleasant or otherwise. Last week I had another £3.5k invoice and that's the costs of an old sports car. The infotainment system is laughable. It has old fashioned charm aplenty, but if it gets replaced by the Emira rather than kept alongside, I am buying a brand new sports car with new tech, a warranty and one should imagine miniscule running costs.

Relevant for me because I went from an Evora sports racer to the Ferrari and may go from the Ferrari to the Emira.

Emira will be more expensive to run than an S1 Evora I am sure. It has bespoke tyres, and the brake discs and pads went up a lot when the 400 was introduced with very few other suppliers. I pay less for consumables on the Ferrari than I did on the Evora, but servicing is about 3x the price.

My post was narcissistic. But someone else mentioned Emira over a 360 or 430 so I was pointing out that however good the touch screens in the Emira are, engine wise it wont be close to a Ferrari that can be bought for the same price. "0 years ago the 360 had the same BHP as the top end Emira will have on launch

[av185]

As discussed many times before on PH the comparison between an old car at the same money as a brand new car is largely farcical.

[blueg33]

av185 said:

As discussed many times before on PH the comparison between an old car at the same money as a brand new car is largely farcical.

Is it though? If the budget is the same and its a real choice, its not farcical. In the example I give, the cars are similar price and similar performance, fulfill a similar role for most (weekend toy)/.

Pretty much everyone I know who purchased a new sports car considered a used one too and many that bought used considered new. In my empirical example of 1 I have done it both ways round.