Which PH'ers have placed a deposit on an Emira?

Which PH'ers have placed a deposit on an Emira?

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Bispal

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1,637 posts

154 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Been on holiday (touring of course) since I started this post but seems there have been lots of orders for the Emira which is great news for Lotus.

The Emira looked amazing at the FoS, especially in blue, the black car did it no favours IMO. I want the Emira for touring and have yet to see the boot space but I was disappointed with the space behind the front seats. Considering the car is slightly longer than the Evora where has the space gone where the rear seats where? I read somewhere the rear bulkhead had been moved forward to allow for hybrid power trains. I really hope the boot is much bigger than the Evora or it may not be usable for touring. The rear shelf also slopes so its not useful for bags / coats etc. It could be that with its huge 'Frunk' and large flat shelf behind the seats that my 675LT will hold more luggage. In fact the Emira is only 13mm narrower than a 12C, another worry with narrow roads in the Alps, Cote d'Azur, Amalfi coast and Lake District.

I have never been so excited to see a boot before, the anticipation is building.....



Edited by Bispal on Friday 16th July 11:57

s111dpc

1,370 posts

232 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I’m sure there was a shot of the boot open on one of the Jenson Button video’s, although I couldn’t tell you which one I’m afraid.

Shnozz

27,726 posts

274 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Bispal said:
Been on holiday (touring of course) since I started this post but seems there have been lots of orders for the Emira which is great news for Lotus.

The Emira looked amazing at the FoS, especially in blue, the black car did it no favours IMO. I want the Emira for touring and have yet to see the boot space but I was disappointed with the space behind the front seats. Considering the car is slightly longer than the Evora where has the space gone where the rear seats where? I read somewhere the rear bulkhead had been moved forward to allow for hybrid power trains. I really hope the boot is much bigger than the Evora or it may not be usable for touring. The rear shelf also slopes so its not useful for bags / coats etc. It could be that with its huge 'Frunk' and large flat shelf behind the seats that my 675LT will hold more luggage. In fact the Emira is only 13mm narrower than a 12C, another worry with narrow roads in the Alps, Cote d'Azur, Amalfi coast and Lake District.

I have never been so excited to see a boot before, the anticipation is building.....
This is a big question for me too. Have found a few photos on line but not many, and one of the goodwood cars had a boot full of batteries so not the finished article. A few dark photos of the space behind the seats doesn't really show the extent of use, albeit have heard it said not far off the Evora which I had so can judge a few cabin bags might be ok.

For what I want to use the car for, or more where it will fit for me in terms of what it may replace, I would want to be able to tour a bit in it. My Mrs isn't really a car person so wouldn't be thrilled if we had to do it with minimal luggage.

If the luggage space is minimal, I would be tempted back to an Exige for play and the Aston for touring. If the Emira's capacity is sufficient, it can replace the Aston instead, albeit the luggage space on that is unlikely to be equalled I accept.

Bispal

Original Poster:

1,637 posts

154 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Shnozz said:
Bispal said:
Been on holiday (touring of course) since I started this post but seems there have been lots of orders for the Emira which is great news for Lotus.

The Emira looked amazing at the FoS, especially in blue, the black car did it no favours IMO. I want the Emira for touring and have yet to see the boot space but I was disappointed with the space behind the front seats. Considering the car is slightly longer than the Evora where has the space gone where the rear seats where? I read somewhere the rear bulkhead had been moved forward to allow for hybrid power trains. I really hope the boot is much bigger than the Evora or it may not be usable for touring. The rear shelf also slopes so its not useful for bags / coats etc. It could be that with its huge 'Frunk' and large flat shelf behind the seats that my 675LT will hold more luggage. In fact the Emira is only 13mm narrower than a 12C, another worry with narrow roads in the Alps, Cote d'Azur, Amalfi coast and Lake District.

I have never been so excited to see a boot before, the anticipation is building.....
This is a big question for me too. Have found a few photos on line but not many, and one of the goodwood cars had a boot full of batteries so not the finished article. A few dark photos of the space behind the seats doesn't really show the extent of use, albeit have heard it said not far off the Evora which I had so can judge a few cabin bags might be ok.

For what I want to use the car for, or more where it will fit for me in terms of what it may replace, I would want to be able to tour a bit in it. My Mrs isn't really a car person so wouldn't be thrilled if we had to do it with minimal luggage.

If the luggage space is minimal, I would be tempted back to an Exige for play and the Aston for touring. If the Emira's capacity is sufficient, it can replace the Aston instead, albeit the luggage space on that is unlikely to be equalled I accept.
Edited my post with my own photo I took at FoS. behind the seats is a long way off an Evora. Your usage is exactly like mine. I was also told seats were not final version and they were fixed all way back so need to see for real before I decide. My wife also likes to recline the seats quite a lot for a 'snooze' so its important they can also do this and still accommodate her legs as she is quite tall.








Edited by Bispal on Friday 16th July 12:02

blueg33

36,885 posts

227 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Shnozz said:
This is a big question for me too. Have found a few photos on line but not many, and one of the goodwood cars had a boot full of batteries so not the finished article. A few dark photos of the space behind the seats doesn't really show the extent of use, albeit have heard it said not far off the Evora which I had so can judge a few cabin bags might be ok.

For what I want to use the car for, or more where it will fit for me in terms of what it may replace, I would want to be able to tour a bit in it. My Mrs isn't really a car person so wouldn't be thrilled if we had to do it with minimal luggage.

If the luggage space is minimal, I would be tempted back to an Exige for play and the Aston for touring. If the Emira's capacity is sufficient, it can replace the Aston instead, albeit the luggage space on that is unlikely to be equalled I accept.
The space behind the seats in the Evora was a decent size, I fitted all 4 summer wheels with tyres on inside the Evora, thats 285 wide 19 inch for the rear and 18 inch for the front (and my car had the sear rather than the shelf)

The Evora boot is almost the full width of the car with about 30 cm each site of the opening, I expect the Emira to be similar, it was amazing how much you could store in the space that wasn't immediately visible

Shnozz

27,726 posts

274 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Bispal said:
Edited my post with my own photo I took at FoS. behind the seats is a long way off an Evora. Your usage is exactly like mine. I was also told seats were not final version and they were fixed all way back so need to see for real before I decide. My wife also likes to recline the seats quite a lot for a 'snooze' so its important they can also do this and still accommodate her legs as she is quite tall.
I can see me trotting up to the Lotus dealership with 2 x cabin cases and a variety of soft luggage when they have a demo in..

carphotographer

500 posts

198 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.

MannyLon

1,738 posts

209 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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carphotographer said:
I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.
Is that confirmed pricing?

Shnozz

27,726 posts

274 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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carphotographer said:
I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.
The options on the configurator are refreshingly limited. I wonder how you could even get to £10k by speccing the most expensive of each? Be interesting to see what the first editions are specced with and what premium they will therefore attract. Guess once the order books open we will find out.

hurricane_82

122 posts

189 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Shnozz said:
hurricane_82 said:
Always wondered how people afford £60-£80k cars. How's everyone funding their Lotus Emira? Lotus finance / Independent broker / Bank Loan / Cash?
Bit of an odd question to be honest! How does someone afford anything? How did you afford your T350?!

Answer will no doubt be different for everyone.
I was just looking for a general consensus really and to gage who's buying these kinda cars at these price points...

I saved up over the course of 2 years to afford my T350C outright. But that only cost me £23k back in 2012. Saving up £60-£80k is a harder/longer task and I could pay half off my mortgage with that... Finance on £60-£80k over 4 years is coming in at about £800-£1200 depending on the deposit. I could put that amount of cash to much better use with investing... That all said though, I'd been lusting and saving for a Porsche GT3 for a year now and the prospect of chucking £130-£160k at one of them scares me.


Dick Dastardly

8,315 posts

266 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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I’ve been thinking about the Emira all week. It’s the first car in years that I’ve really been excited about, so I just put down a deposit.

I just wish I’d done it sooner as judging the overall excitement and number of people on here who have done similar, I’ll be taking delivery in 2040.

Cannot wait for my first drive in it!

av185

18,786 posts

130 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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hurricane_82 said:
That all said though, I'd been lusting and saving for a Porsche GT3 for a year now and the prospect of chucking £130-£160k at one of them scares me.
Less scary than chucking £70k to £80k at a Lotus tbh. The GT3 has way more form for holding its value over cost ££ than a Lotus.

Shnozz

27,726 posts

274 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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hurricane_82 said:
I was just looking for a general consensus really and to gage who's buying these kinda cars at these price points...

I saved up over the course of 2 years to afford my T350C outright. But that only cost me £23k back in 2012. Saving up £60-£80k is a harder/longer task and I could pay half off my mortgage with that... Finance on £60-£80k over 4 years is coming in at about £800-£1200 depending on the deposit. I could put that amount of cash to much better use with investing... That all said though, I'd been lusting and saving for a Porsche GT3 for a year now and the prospect of chucking £130-£160k at one of them scares me.
Well the way my investment form has gone in the last 6 months, I dare say I would be better off using the capital tied up in my portfolio to but a heavily depreciating asset!

That said, from your situation I can't understand why you would pay off a mortgage at existing rates to then take a finance agreement presumably at far higher rates than your mortgage! And if you have saved towards a £160k car then I would have thought the Emira budget must be fairly easily within reach unless the GT3 was pegged for after we all are confined to electric vehicles anyway!

MannyLon

1,738 posts

209 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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IMO paying off most of the mortgage is sound advice. It's the roof over your head after all.

Shnozz

27,726 posts

274 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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MannyLon said:
IMO paying off most of the mortgage is sound advice. It's the roof over your head after all.
Might make you sleep better at night but with many people on mortgages little more than 1% there is no financial sense in having £100k left on a mortgage paying 1% and then borrowing £100k to buy a car at 5-6% or whatever many finance deals seem to be advertised at.

Not one for car finance personally as I view a toy car as a frivolity not an essential, but the figures don't lie.

av185

18,786 posts

130 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Has this thread morphed into a car finance thread for some strange reason?

as7920

733 posts

204 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Shnozz said:
carphotographer said:
I've just placed a deposit after speaking to my AD.

The V6 will be £75k and AMG at £60k, unsure what benefits the V6 will be . Evo timed an A45AMG 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds.

The AD talked about options that would add £10k to a base car.

I've been considering a 360 or a F430 but the Emira looks to be a better choice.
The options on the configurator are refreshingly limited. I wonder how you could even get to £10k by speccing the most expensive of each? Be interesting to see what the first editions are specced with and what premium they will therefore attract. Guess once the order books open we will find out.
Speculative worst case pricing based on no official info whatsoever. I’ve never even owned a Lotus so non idea how realistic these prices could be.

£59,995 - AMG 2.0l 8sp DCT OTR
£1k - Seneca Blue metallic paint
£1k - Black pack
£2k - Black interior with alcantara and yellow stitching
£1k - Alcantara steering wheel with yellow stitching
£1.5k - Diamond cut ultra-lightweight forged V spoke wheels
£1k - K.E.F. audio upgrade
£250 - Yellow brake calipers

Hope everything listed above aren't cost options. But they are listed on the Configurator with the exception of the KEF audio upgrade. Perhaps thats standard. That's over 10% over OTR for my options (pessimistically)




Edited by as7920 on Friday 16th July 17:46

MannyLon

1,738 posts

209 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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as7920 said:
£59,995 - AMG 2.0l 8sp DCT OTR
£1k - Seneca Blue metallic paint
£1k - Black pack
£2k - Black interior with alcantara and yellow stitching
£1k - Alcantara steering wheel with yellow stitching
£1.5k - Diamond cut ultra-lightweight forged V spoke wheels
£1k - K.E.F. audio upgrade
£250 - Yellow brake calipers

Hope everything listed above aren't cost options. That's over 10% over OTR for my options (pessimistically)
Where are you guys getting the pricing from?
Thought prices will be released in Sept?

as7920

733 posts

204 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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Good point. Nowhere. Just speculative so should put that in the post. Like you say, official news September.

Jon39

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146 months

Friday 16th July 2021
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MannyLon said:
IMO paying off most of the mortgage is sound advice. It's the roof over your head after all.

I chose to keep my mortgage running after I retired. The interest rate was lower than my investment returns.
At present, some borrowers mortgage interest rates might be less than inflation, in which case the theory states keep your mortgage running.

The only disaster would be, if you suddenly could not service the monthly repayments. If that happened, you would regret not paying off most of your mortgage.

Life is full of risks and decisions.