ESC OFF isn't really OFF, is it?
Discussion
Noticed today two phenomenas:
1) It is quite often not possible to switch the ESC OFF in Sports Mode. When cruising around in Sports Mode, it very often takes ages and several trials until the ESC actually switches off, even with prolonged pressing of the designated switch nothing happens.
Am I to stupid or are there any tricks to switch it off on first attempt?
2) When pushing the limits I have the impression that the ESC is still engaging in Sports Mode with ESC OFF, just with much higher tolerances. Even in Track Mode I think I felt several single wheel brake inputs, especially when the car understeered while entering a tight hairpin bend.
Is that my imagination or is the ESC still active when switched OFF as a last chance safety backup?
1) It is quite often not possible to switch the ESC OFF in Sports Mode. When cruising around in Sports Mode, it very often takes ages and several trials until the ESC actually switches off, even with prolonged pressing of the designated switch nothing happens.
Am I to stupid or are there any tricks to switch it off on first attempt?
2) When pushing the limits I have the impression that the ESC is still engaging in Sports Mode with ESC OFF, just with much higher tolerances. Even in Track Mode I think I felt several single wheel brake inputs, especially when the car understeered while entering a tight hairpin bend.
Is that my imagination or is the ESC still active when switched OFF as a last chance safety backup?
Edited by k_m on Sunday 26th May 19:19
So only in Track mode it's possible to switch off the ECS completely. When switched off in Sports mode it still remains active in a degraded level.
Then we additionaly have the "LSD via brake input", what is not mentioned in the manual. That should also be disengaged when the ECS is switched off in Track mode, otherwise the driving on snow thingy would make no sense, wouldn't it?
Besides that, I still wonder why quite often it takes several attempts to switch the ESC off in Sports mode. I couldn't find any consistence here.
Then we additionaly have the "LSD via brake input", what is not mentioned in the manual. That should also be disengaged when the ECS is switched off in Track mode, otherwise the driving on snow thingy would make no sense, wouldn't it?
Besides that, I still wonder why quite often it takes several attempts to switch the ESC off in Sports mode. I couldn't find any consistence here.
Well, I still get the following phenomena in Sports mode with the ESP switched OFF via the designated switch:
When entering pretty fast tight hairpin bends the car produces a "BRRRRRRRRR" noise from the front compartement, like the ABS block is triggering, but without a mechanical feedback on the brake pedal. It seems to happen more in left bends, less in right bends.
I ask myself what intervention that could be?
ABS? But it happens also when I just slightly hit the brake pedal with no feedback. On all other cars I've had the brake pedal vibrates when the ABS triggers.
Understeer prevention? Is that still active with ESP off?
Electronical LSD? But it happens prior pushing the throttle pedal before passing the apex.
I still have to try if it's different in Track mode.
When entering pretty fast tight hairpin bends the car produces a "BRRRRRRRRR" noise from the front compartement, like the ABS block is triggering, but without a mechanical feedback on the brake pedal. It seems to happen more in left bends, less in right bends.
I ask myself what intervention that could be?
ABS? But it happens also when I just slightly hit the brake pedal with no feedback. On all other cars I've had the brake pedal vibrates when the ABS triggers.
Understeer prevention? Is that still active with ESP off?
Electronical LSD? But it happens prior pushing the throttle pedal before passing the apex.
I still have to try if it's different in Track mode.
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